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WhawhaWhat 06-18-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9759382)
You really think 91 PAs is a valid sample size?

Is that really what you got from that sentence?

I'm saying I would rather see what Falu has at this point because of the small success he had vs what Giavotella has produced to this point. Even more so if they are both short-term options.

duncan_idaho 06-18-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9759377)
but you can say the same thing about Giavotella. Falu actually produced at the major league level (granted with only 1/4 of the ABs), where Giavotella hasn't.

I have been as hard as anyone on here, I think, on Gio. But he has produced consistently at the minor league level at a much higher level than Falu.

He's hitting better than Falu this year at the same level, and Falu has really only had ONE good offensive season (last year).

Based on their minor performance and upside, Gio is more likely to be successful hitting in the major leagues than Falu.

DJJasonp 06-18-2013 01:30 PM

Wil Myers is 0-2 in his MLB debut today.....BUST!!!! :p

ChiTown 06-18-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9759342)
Can you elaborate on why you want him?

Kendrick is a nice player but not a star, and he probably costs "Star" prices to purchase. There are other targets who offer more offensive upside (Alex Rios, Chase Utley, Mike Morse) at likely lower costs in prospects/trade chips.

If you bring in a stop-gap like Utley or Morse, you can sign a similar replacement in FA for about the same money you'd give Kendrick.

If you are able to land a guy like Rios that you control for a few more years, don't have to worry as much about a FA bat.

I'll put it this way: Rios and Utley are big-enough bats to make a major difference and impact in the KC lineup. Kendrick is a good bat but does not have the same effect.

I'm not a guru like some of the baseball fanatics on this board (yourself included). I'm just thinking of winning now, and HK can help this team today.

AndChiefs 06-18-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 9759557)
Wil Myers is 0-2 in his MLB debut today.....BUST!!!! :p

To be fair...the Red Sox have Aceves pitching. His 5 ERA is pretty daunting.

CaliforniaChief 06-18-2013 02:01 PM

I think all of us envisioned a day when Odorizzi and Myers were playing in the majors together.

For Tampa.

I'm cool.

duncan_idaho 06-18-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9759629)
I'm not a guru like some of the baseball fanatics on this board (yourself included). I'm just thinking of winning now, and HK can help this team today.

Fair enough.

So you'd be cool with targeting Alex Rios or Chase Utley if they can help MORE today, right?

duncan_idaho 06-18-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9759657)
I think all of us envisioned a day when Odorizzi and Myers were playing in the majors together.

For Tampa.

I'm cool.

I cooled quite a bit on Odorizzi's ultimate upside during the course of last season. I don't think the kid ever develops the breaking pitch he needs to be a legitimate No. 2 starter (his upside when acquired), but he'll be a solid 3/4 for a while, I think.

Myers, who knows what's going to happen. His massive K rates are a real concern, IMO. I still think Jay Bruce is kind of his "best-case scenario" but time will tell.

Nightfyre 06-18-2013 02:27 PM

Interesting to note: Royals are 11-3 in June, but are still struggling to play catch-up with the Tigers who are 10-5 this month. Even though the Royals are hot, the Tigers are making it tough.

Nightfyre 06-18-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9759746)
I cooled quite a bit on Odorizzi's ultimate upside during the course of last season. I don't think the kid ever develops the breaking pitch he needs to be a legitimate No. 2 starter (his upside when acquired), but he'll be a solid 3/4 for a while, I think.

Myers, who knows what's going to happen. His massive K rates are a real concern, IMO. I still think Jay Bruce is kind of his "best-case scenario" but time will tell.

I still think Odorizzi will be a AAAA pitcher. Even in AAA, a lot of his outs were deep flyouts that MLB power will turn into homeruns, imo.

CaliforniaChief 06-18-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9759750)
Interesting to note: Royals are 11-3 in June, but are still struggling to play catch-up with the Tigers who are 10-5 this month. Even though the Royals are hot, the Tigers are making it tough.

True. Just think though, we could be completely buried right now. We're hanging in there.

mr. tegu 06-18-2013 02:50 PM

Odorizzi made two starts with Tampa and got pretty beat up.

ChiTown 06-18-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9759729)
Fair enough.

So you'd be cool with targeting Alex Rios or Chase Utley if they can help MORE today, right?

Sure

Nightfyre 06-18-2013 02:52 PM

Also noticed today that Felipe Paulino's rehab start got put off due to back stiffness.

mr. tegu 06-18-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9759787)
True. Just think though, we could be completely buried right now. We're hanging in there.

For the rest of June, the Tigers have two more against Baltimore, 4 against Boston, three against the Angels, and three against Tampa for their next 12 games.

We have two more against Cleveland, three against CWS, two against Atlanta, and three against Minnesota. I think we should be able to make up a few games throughout the rest of this month.


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