ChiefsPlanet - NFL Draft Geno Smith fans roll call

LOL... Chiefs can't find a star Dlineman drafting them in the top 10 repeatedly if they life depended of it and now you think all of a sudden... they'll find a star in the middle rounds??

My point is not only do dlinemen have slightly more impact on the game than safeties, even in today's pass-happy league, but while I don't know how Poe will progress, right now the Dline is worse than the safety position on this team.

Coogs

12-18-2012 02:01 PM

Walter just gave us Hopkins, WR from Clemson with pick #34 at the top of round 2.

O.city

12-18-2012 02:02 PM

How many top 10 drafted Dlineman in the past 10 years are stars?

You don't need ****ing stars on the dline. You need solid, nasty guys up there. And those can be found in the mid rounds.

htismaqe

12-18-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9221540)

LOL... Chiefs can't find a star Dlineman drafting them in the top 10 repeatedly if they life depended of it and now you think all of a sudden... they'll find a star in the middle rounds??

Every other team does it.

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9221540)

My point is not only do dlinemen have slightly more impact on the game than safeties, even in today's pass-happy league, but while I don't know how Poe will progress, right now the Dline is worse than the safety position on this team.

Unless this team moves to a 4-3, there's zero reason to spend high draft picks on defensive linemen.

htismaqe

12-18-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9221542)

Walter just gave us Hopkins, WR from Clemson with pick #34 at the top of round 2.

Really?

Not sure what to think, he's kind of strange as a WR prospect because he's not really "special" in any aspect.

He's not super tall and he's not real fast. He's supposedly a good route runner though and tends to show up every week.

keg in kc

12-18-2012 02:07 PM

Let's take another d-lineman high. 4 in a decade isn't enough.

Or maybe we can apply that logic to the quarterback position. You know, the one that counts the most in today's NFL.

Saccopoo

12-18-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9220184)

look, I'm not saying Geno can't be good. He just isn't going to be.

Stunning argument.

Captain of the debate team in high school?

the Talking Can

12-18-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9221542)

Walter just gave us Hopkins, WR from Clemson with pick #34 at the top of round 2.

this is a great draft for picking up a WR in the 2nd

21 *Keenan Allen WR 1 California
24 Terrance Williams WR 2 Baylor
27 Tavon Austin WR 3 West Virginia
34 *DeAndre Hopkins WR 4 Clemson
44 *Justin Hunter WR 5 Tennessee
49 *Robert Woods WR 6 Southern California
54 *Cordarrelle Patterson WR 7 Tennessee
72 Quinton Patton WR 8 Louisiana Tech
79 *Da'Rick Rogers WR 9 Tennessee Tech
82 *Kenny Stills WR 10 Oklahoma
97 Ryan Swope WR 11 Texas A&M
100 Aaron Dobson WR 12 Marshall
105 Cobi Hamilton WR 13 Arkansas
113 *Stedman Bailey WR 14 West Virginia

Coogs

12-18-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9221554)

Here is what they say about him in their prospect links...

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DeAndre Hopkins*, WR, Clemson
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.40.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
12/8/12: Hopkins started the 2012 season on fire. He became the No. 1 receiver for Clemson as Sammy Watkins started the season suspended and was slow to return to his freshman form. Hopkins picked up the slack and became the top receiver for Tajh Boyd. Hopkins enters his Bowl game against LSU with 1,214 yards on 69 catches and 16 touchdowns in 2012. He's been burning defenses with his deep speed.

8/27/12: Hopkins is not as talented as Sammy Watkins, but Hopkins is a dangerous receiver in his own right. He was secondary receiver in 2011, but still caught 72 passes for 978 yards and five touchdowns. As a freshman in 2010 he hauled in 52 passes for 637 yards with four scores.

Hopkins should produce well over the next two years with Watkins drawing constant double teams. Overall, Hopkins has a nice skill set with speed, hands and route-running.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013WR.php

RealSNR

12-18-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9221540)

If we're whiffing on Dline picks in the first round, we may as well whiff on Dline picks in the middle rounds and spend the 1st and 2nd rounds on picks like... oh.... I don't know...... QB?

We've struck gold there before. Jared Allen was a 4th rounder. Jimmy Wilkerson wasn't terrible. Hell I STILL think Jerrell Powe isn't getting the respect he deserves from this coaching staff.

A blind squirrel finds the nut every once in awhile. We've been concentrating waaay too much on Dline past few years. Even if our task of rebuilding that position group isn't complete, we have GOT to move on to other stuff. We can't afford to piss away any more crap at defensive line picks.

DaKCMan AP

12-18-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9221564)

If a first round guy falls to the top of the 2nd. A very nice prospect will likely be available at the top of round 3 as well.

the Talking Can

12-18-2012 02:12 PM

if Da'Rick Rogers or Austin is there....boiing

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Rogers is a virtual Julio Jones clone, exhibiting an exciting combination of size, strength and explosiveness.

He signed with Tennessee as one of the most highly regarded prep prospects in the entire country, and immediately showed off his versatility, racking up 167 yards as a receiver and 117 yards as a runner (reverses, etc.).

Rogers was expected to serve as the complementary piece to Justin Hunter in 2011, but stepped up once his teammate was injured and went on to lead the SEC with 1,040 receiving yards in 2011. He eclipsed the 100-yard mark in six games, one short of a Tennessee record, and earned First Team All-SEC honors by the media and league coaches.

While there are plenty of traits about Rogers scouts will love, one they must be concerned about is Rogers' accountability on and off the field. For violating team rules, Rogers was suspended indefinitely by Tennessee coach Derek Dooley on Aug. 23 and ultimately transferred to Tennessee Tech.

"We're excited to have him and look forward to working with him," Tech coach Watson Brown said Aug. 27. "It's a unique situation for me, but we know he's a good kid. He knows a couple of the players on our team, and we know his high school coach, and we're going on their recommendations.

"After meeting with Da'Rick and his family, I can see what everybody is saying about him," Brown added. "We've met with Da'Rick and he understands our expectations."

Rogers played in all 11 games for Tennessee Tech in 2012, and was the man among boys he was expected to be, leading the team with 61 catches for 893 yards and 10 touchdowns. No one else on the roster had more than 28 receptions, and Rogers put up his staggering numbers despite every opponent game-planning to contain him.

DaKCMan AP

12-18-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9221571)

if Da'Rick Rogers or Austin is there....boiing

I like Patterson a lot as well.

RealSNR

12-18-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9221570)

If a first round guy falls to the top of the 2nd. A very nice prospect will likely be available at the top of round 3 as well.

Draft Geno, take Tavon Austin and Cobi Hamilton... find a safety or CB that hopefully falls to the back of the 3rd... add some defensive line...

This has the potential to be a legendarily great draft for this team. Me likey.

htismaqe

12-18-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9221566)

Here is what they say about him in their prospect links...

Interesting. They mention him "burning" defenses with his "speed" which I just patently disagree with...

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