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Three7s 06-18-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9759869)
For the rest of June, the Tigers have two more against Baltimore, 4 against Boston, three against the Angels, and three against Tampa for their next 12 games.

We have two more against Cleveland, three against CWS, two against Atlanta, and three against Minnesota. I think we should be able to make up a few games throughout the rest of this month.

Assuming we don't start slumping again.

ChiefsCountry 06-18-2013 03:55 PM

Just keep winning 2 out of 3 and we will be fine.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-18-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9758921)
I know this to be true, but I still "feel" like Johnson provides more value than his numbers suggest. He's the gamer/winner/spark plug that managers love and sabermetricians hate. I love him as a utility guy.

Yeah, he's fine as a utility guy/pinch running specialist. But he is not good enough to play every day on a real offense.

WhawhaWhat 06-18-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9759834)
Also noticed today that Felipe Paulino's rehab start got put off due to back stiffness.

Joel Goldberg ‏@goldbergkc
#Royals trainer Nick Kenney says RHP Felipe Paulino will return to KC from rehab assignment due to lower back discomfort. Precautionary & Paulino not expected to be out long. Don't want any complications due to back to affect elbow or shoulder.

mr. tegu 06-19-2013 07:04 AM

In his career Elliot Johnson has 583 ABs which is about a single season's worth. In those ABs he has 19 2B, 5 3B, 12 HR, 58 RBI, 34 SB, and a .228 BA.

On a team that values defense and has a need for good baserunning, especially from that position, would we not be content to get a season of that from our second baseman? Heck look at all that power! Johnson needs to start getting everday playing time if we aren't going to be making a move for significant upgrade. Those are pretty decent numbers that we could certainly live with from a throw in player.

If one good thing can come from last night it would be Getz riding the pine on a much more regular basis after butchering his last AB.

duncan_idaho 06-19-2013 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762027)
In his career Elliot Johnson has 583 ABs which is about a single season's worth. In those ABs he has 19 2B, 5 3B, 12 HR, 58 RBI, 34 SB, and a .228 BA.

On a team that values defense and has a need for good baserunning, especially from that position, would we not be content to get a season of that from our second baseman? Heck look at all that power! Johnson needs to start getting everday playing time if we aren't going to be making a move for significant upgrade. Those are pretty decent numbers that we could certainly live with from a throw in player.

If one good thing can come from last night it would be Getz going the way of Hiram Davies, Horacio Ramirez, Roman Colon and getting DFA/outright release

FYP

mr. tegu 06-19-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9762043)
FYP

I live in the real world. :p

duncan_idaho 06-19-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762061)
I live in the real world. :p

I figured... while we're talking about 'good things' that last night can create, why not talk about the best 'good thing' possible?

Dayton Moore's biggest failing, by far, as a GM is his complete and blind loyalty to shitty players like Getz, Francoeur, Davies, Hochevar, Ramirez, Colon, etc.

GMs are going to make mistakes. That's fine. The problem is compounding the mistake by continuing to roster the mistake well past the point of obvious failure.

texaschiefsfan 06-19-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9760069)
Just keep winning 2 out of 3 and we will be fine.

Oh, yeah. No big deal.

mr. tegu 06-19-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9762069)
I figured... while we're talking about 'good things' that last night can create, why not talk about the best 'good thing' possible?

Dayton Moore's biggest failing, by far, as a GM is his complete and blind loyalty to shitty players like Getz, Francoeur, Davies, Hochevar, Ramirez, Colon, etc.

GMs are going to make mistakes. That's fine. The problem is compounding the mistake by continuing to roster the mistake well past the point of obvious failure.

Definitely. I don't think we will be lucky enough to see both Getz and Francoeur DFA in the near future, but I am really thinking that once a decision has to be made on Dyson, Frenchy will be the odd man out.

Infidel Goat 06-19-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762027)
In his career Elliot Johnson has 583 ABs which is about a single season's worth. In those ABs he has 19 2B, 5 3B, 12 HR, 58 RBI, 34 SB, and a .228 BA.

On a team that values defense and has a need for good baserunning, especially from that position, would we not be content to get a season of that from our second baseman? Heck look at all that power! Johnson needs to start getting everday playing time if we aren't going to be making a move for significant upgrade. Those are pretty decent numbers that we could certainly live with from a throw in player.

If one good thing can come from last night it would be Getz riding the pine on a much more regular basis after butchering his last AB.

Drop Getz and pull up Johnny G. already. Johnson bats better as a lefty, so we could use Johnny G. to rest either Johnson or Moose against tough southpaws. Getz, as another lefty, is inferior and redundant.

Three7s 06-19-2013 08:31 AM

Talking about getting rid of losers is all well and good, but it's not gonna happen. This team crappy players that "try hard".

Mama Hip Rockets 06-19-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762027)
In his career Elliot Johnson has 583 ABs which is about a single season's worth. In those ABs he has 19 2B, 5 3B, 12 HR, 58 RBI, 34 SB, and a .228 BA.

All decent numbers except for that .228 BA. Also, you forgot to mention the .283 OBP and 176 strikeouts. A guy who hits fewer than 40 HR per year should not be striking out 176 times.

mr. tegu 06-19-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9762432)
All decent numbers except for that .228 BA. Also, you forgot to mention the .283 OBP and 176 strikeouts. A guy who hits fewer than 40 HR per year should not be striking out 176 times.

I agree. Given our options, unless we actually make a significant move to improve, for the forseeable future Johnson has to play more than Getz.

cookster50 06-19-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9762432)
All decent numbers except for that .228 BA. Also, you forgot to mention the .283 OBP and 176 strikeouts. A guy who hits fewer than 40 HR per year should not be striking out 176 times.

I haven't looked at the numbers, but generally a player like this has steep splits that favor one side, which means you cannot just say "give him a full season and he'll hit like this" because it would really be much worse.


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