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duncan_idaho 07-26-2012 06:44 PM

So the Marlins wants something similar to what the Braves gave up for Teixeira? Let's break that down:

Jared Saltalamacchia: No. 36 prospect by BA coming into the 2007 season, Salty was having an OK season at AA and in a cup of coffee at the MLB level. He was the Braves top prospect, with value driven much higher by his position. Royals counterpart: This is a tough call, but it's not Wil Myers. It's more Christian Colon (level/position-driven value) or Jorge Bonifacio (value/upside)

Elvis Andrus: No. 65 by BA. Was hitting .244 at Advanced A at age 18. Stil a long way away but with huge upside. Royals counterpart: Aldaberto Mondesi or Orlando Calixte.

Matt Harrison: A fringe top 100 player at No. 96, with limited upside. Viewed as a 3/4 starter in the majors. Nice piece, but not a deal maker/breaker. Royals Counterpart: Prospect wise, probably Cheslor Cuthbert or maybe a Sugar Ray Marimon (not sure why he made the top 100).

Neftali Feliz: Not ranked by BA entering the season. Was in the midst of a strong campaign at A-ball that saw him enter 2008 ranked No. 93 by BA. Was viewed as a young/raw thrower. Royals counterpart: Angel Baez (who is a hell of a rising prospect for the Royals)

So, the Royals package would be something like: Jorge Bonifacio, Calixte, Colon (or Gio, I suppose), Sugar Ray Marimon, and Angel Baez.

That's a fair price for Josh Johnson, I think - and KC is FAIRLY close to his home in Oklahoma, which is important to him for long-term outlook. I'd do this deal with little hesitation. I might try to see if I can convince the Marlins to take Mike Montgomery instead of Calixte or Bonifacio, though.

Royals certainly CAN easily afford to go get Johnson without empyting their system out or surrendering Wil Myers, Bubba Starling, or Jake Odorizzi.

Nightfyre 07-26-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 8770239)
So the Marlins wants something similar to what the Braves gave up for Teixeira? Let's break that down:

Jared Saltalamacchia: No. 36 prospect by BA coming into the 2007 season, Salty was having an OK season at AA and in a cup of coffee at the MLB level. He was the Braves top prospect, with value driven much higher by his position. Royals counterpart: This is a tough call, but it's not Wil Myers. It's more Christian Colon (level/position-driven value) or Jorge Bonifacio (value/upside)

Elvis Andrus: No. 65 by BA. Was hitting .244 at Advanced A at age 18. Stil a long way away but with huge upside. Royals counterpart: Aldaberto Mondesi or Orlando Calixte.

Matt Harrison: A fringe top 100 player at No. 96, with limited upside. Viewed as a 3/4 starter in the majors. Nice piece, but not a deal maker/breaker. Royals Counterpart: Prospect wise, probably Cheslor Cuthbert or maybe a Sugar Ray Marimon (not sure why he made the top 100).

Neftali Feliz: Not ranked by BA entering the season. Was in the midst of a strong campaign at A-ball that saw him enter 2008 ranked No. 93 by BA. Was viewed as a young/raw thrower. Royals counterpart: Angel Baez (who is a hell of a rising prospect for the Royals)

So, the Royals package would be something like: Jorge Bonifacio, Calixte, Colon (or Gio, I suppose), Sugar Ray Marimon, and Angel Baez.

That's a fair price for Josh Johnson, I think - and KC is FAIRLY close to his home in Oklahoma, which is important to him for long-term outlook. I'd do this deal with little hesitation. I might try to see if I can convince the Marlins to take Mike Montgomery instead of Calixte or Bonifacio, though.

Royals certainly CAN easily afford to go get Johnson without empyting their system out or surrendering Wil Myers, Bubba Starling, or Jake Odorizzi.

Odorizzi looked too hittable in his last start to me. He didn't give up actual hits, but some REALLY well contacted foul balls.

I think he has the makings of a AAAA pitcher. But the only way to find out is to bring him up. Or maybe that's why they aren't bringing him up.

sedated 07-26-2012 06:56 PM

Prospects are lottery tickets. Assuming we can extend him, even if only a few years, I say do it.

DeezNutz 07-26-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8770274)
Prospects are lottery tickets. Assuming we can extend him, even if only a few years, I say do it.

This.

JohnnyV13 07-26-2012 10:46 PM

http://thevirilview.com/royals/2012/...be-the-target/

I think Jeff Nieman from the Rays should be the target.

Nightfyre 07-26-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 8770703)
http://thevirilview.com/royals/2012/...be-the-target/

I think Jeff Nieman from the Rays should be the target.

Interesting find there. Thanks :thumb:

Reaper16 07-26-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8770711)
Interesting find there. Thanks :thumb:

It's not a "find." Dude wrote that blog post. He's been linking to his blog instead of giving his takes here on the board.

gblowfish 07-27-2012 08:40 AM

Royals have now reached the irrelevant stage. They barely made the front page of the KC Star Sports section this AM. NFL training camp, the Olympics, even Sporting KC are going to get more ink. Royals will languish on page two and three for the rest of this year.

Same as it ever was.

Deberg_1990 07-27-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8771110)
Royals have now reached the irrelevant stage. They barely made the front page of the KC Star Sports section this AM. NFL training camp, the Olympics, even Sporting KC are going to get more ink. Royals will languish on page two and three for the rest of this year.

Same as it ever was.

Well, i guess we can all root for Butler to make a run at Balboni's "unbreakable" Royals HR record.

Nightfyre 07-27-2012 08:53 AM

Its funny. I couldn't give a shit about the chiefs until they get a real qb. Ill still suffer through every game, but I won't get my hopes up.

Demonpenz 07-27-2012 09:59 AM

Butler has an outside shot at the balboni record especially when september call ups come around and he gets meat pitchers.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-27-2012 10:03 AM

Even I.... one of the biggest believers on this board... have quit paying attention this year. Haven't even followed on gamecast for a week. I love them. I'll always love them. I just can't invest the energy and time just to keep getting frustrated.

I imagine the rest of the season for me is watching for who we bring up/trade and who might get the ax. Next season mode is well under way.

DeezNutz 07-27-2012 10:05 AM

I'll be interested again this year if/when Myers debuts.

Deberg_1990 07-27-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8771315)
Even I.... one of the biggest believers on this board... have quit paying attention this year. Haven't even followed on gamecast for a week. I love them. I'll always love them. I just can't invest the energy and time just to keep getting frustrated.

I imagine the rest of the season for me is watching for who we bring up/trade and who might get the ax. Next season mode is well under way.

Yea its shame really....The Royals wasted a huge oppurtunity this year to turn a corner and win the city and fans back again.

Same Old Royals...

DeezNutz 07-27-2012 10:12 AM

Rany: Frenchy has negative trade value. Given his poor play and contract, you will have to throw in value to get someone to take him off your hands.

Gives example of trading Broxton, Mijares, and Frenchy with no expectations of any viable return just to get Frenchy off the roster. LMAO. Wow. Dayton Moore, ladies and gentlemen.


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