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milkman 12-11-2011 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8190236)
For the record, you know why the Chiefs get blown out so often? Because: 1) we have NEVER had a QB capable of clawing a team from behind; 2) because in most cases, we are so outmatched in talent that the only way to win games is through winning by putting twice the effort into the game as the opponent.

When you have to win by motivation, and not because of talent, that's a great recipe for disaster.
FTR, the preseason plan was a failure, and was responsible for the blowout losses at the beginning of the season.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8190309)
Record setting offensive ineptitude.


For this reason alone Haley should be shitcanned.
How much of this is because of players?
How much of this is because of coaching?

splatbass 12-11-2011 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8190309)
Record setting offensive ineptitude.


For this reason alone Haley should be shitcanned.
Can't blame it all on the offense today. The defense has looked like shit too. And special teams.

DeezNutz 12-11-2011 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8190348)
How much of this is because of players?
How much of this is because of coaching?
It's both. Pioli and Haley both deserve to be fired, but we're only going to get the latter, and it's definitely justified.

notorious 12-11-2011 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8190348)
How much of this is because of players?
How much of this is because of coaching?
Seriously?


JFC, words can't describe.


THE WORST OFFENSE IN NFL MOTHER ****ING HISTORY!

splatbass 12-11-2011 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8190369)
THE WORST OFFENSE IN NFL MOTHER ****ING HISTORY!
You got some stats to back that up?

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8190359)
It's both. Pioli and Haley both deserve to be fired, but we're only going to get the latter, and it's definitely justified.
The point being that you have no idea how the head coach would respond with better players, who allow you to actually do things with your playbook other than grind the ball on the ground because you don't trust your QB.

I would still argue that putting the Chiefs in the playoffs last year and winning 5 games this year with the kind of talent we have is nothing short of a miracle. We win games because we outplay other teams. I can't think of any legit playoff teams where our team comes even CLOSE to the talent level they have.

teedubya 12-11-2011 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8190229)
Have you been watching the Chiefs this season?

Buffalo game? Detroit game? Miami game? New England game?

Blowouts.

This isn't a one game thing.
And... in the last 6 games the Chiefs haven't scored more than 10 points.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8190369)
Seriously?


JFC, words can't describe.


THE WORST OFFENSE IN NFL MOTHER ****ING HISTORY!
Behind one of the worst starters in NFL history.

And the reason that guy is starting is because of a complete disregard by our front office for 3 years to do ANYTHING about our backup QB position, except draft a QB (finally) in the 5th round.

milkman 12-11-2011 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8190333)
WRONG answer BITCH

You have no answer.

You throw out a dumbshit cliche statement about Haley having the team motivated and then can't back it up.

Please explain how after the fifth blowout loss of the season, the Chiefs still look "motivated" under Haley?

Explain yourself you DUMBSHIT whore.
Why would I want to waste my time trying to explain anything to you?

jd1020 12-11-2011 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8190351)
Can't blame it all on the offense today. The defense has looked like shit too. And special teams.
You can't be serious...

The Jets matched the Chiefs first half offensive yards with TD's in the first half.

notorious 12-11-2011 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8190394)
You got some stats to back that up?
Whoops, I'm sorry.

Indy scored 143 back in 1991.


When they allowed D-Backs to man-handle WR's and QB's were allowed to be hit. Oh ya, QB's weren't allowed to throw the ball away when out of the pocket, either.



Hmmmmmm.

DeezNutz 12-11-2011 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8190407)
The point being that you have no idea how the head coach would respond with better players, who allow you to actually do things with your playbook other than grind the ball on the ground because you don't trust your QB.

I would still argue that putting the Chiefs in the playoffs last year and winning 5 games this year with the kind of talent we have is nothing short of a miracle. We win games because we outplay other teams. I can't think of any legit playoff teams where our team comes even CLOSE to the talent level they have.
Two of the wins this years were, literally, statistical miracles (SD and CHI). The bottom line is that when a team fails as miserably as the Chiefs have, large changes have to happen, and Haley has been complicit with the overall suck. Because he...wait for it...sucks.

O.city 12-11-2011 03:05 PM
The defense gave up around 300 yards of offense today.

O.city 12-11-2011 03:06 PM
Sadly, Haley will be brought back next year and the injuries will be an excuse.


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