I can't believe anyone managed to watch all of season 3 of Discovery. Terrible.

Time for me to go on a bit of a rant. S3 was bad, but they take it to another level in S4. It's the most groan inducing overly melodramatic trash I've ever seen put on screen. It bears literally no resemblance to the first two seasons. Nearly every episode devolves into at least 10 minutes of everyone slowly talking about their feelings (usually during a massive ship-destroying crisis where time is of the essence making it all the more ridiculous). The season is really just one massive therapy session.

The writers, for whatever reason, think this is how you develop characters and yet they also somehow manage to make you not care about any of their characters over the course of the season, except for perhaps the "villain", who seemed like the only sane one of the bunch for most of it in his approach to dealing with the potentially world-destroying problem they were facing. Not one character in the primary cast has been developed over the past two seasons. They are all exactly the same as they were when they went into the far future (and you barely cared about them up until that point either).

The show was also criticized from the beginning as being too "woke." This is not a problem in itself at all to me. The problem is the clumsy way in which bash you over the head with their wokeness over and over again, which has become all the more frequent over the past two seasons. It feels like they are actively attempting to score political/social points every episode and it takes you out of the episode each time they do it.

I'm not sure how any of it was greenlit or continues to be greenlit by CBS/Paramount. Absolutely abysmal stuff. If anyone ever feels tempted to watch any of it, do not. It will only anger you.

Ouch. I haven't watched since halfway into season 3, but this is depressing for a Star Trek property. :(

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I have tried three separate times to get into ST: D's 4th season, and just.....absolutely can't. The SFX are amazing and I am curious about the Federation and that universe in that time, but it's just so SO bad. Excellent take, and couldn't have said it better myself.

Help us Captain Pike and Mr. Spock. You're our only hope. *static; message repeats*

Oooff

None of the other current Trek properties (Picard, Lower Decks, and Prodigy) are certainly great right now, but at least they have good qualities and entertain and are not plagued by the same crippling issues as Discovery (melodramatic therapy sessions, a gross misapprehension/failure of how to develop characters, incessant wokeness among others). Given that, you can probably put the blame for it at the feet of the showrunner/writing team who have apparently been left to their own devices (or Kurtzman is just incapable of saying no to them).

The fact that it was renewed for a 5th season is just incredible given how bad it has become but maybe CBS/Paramount needs content for their streaming service so badly that they are willing to take anything.

I'm so old I remember when Pecard taught us how to be better people.

Not when he chastized us for being original sinners...

Well he did stop the crew from taking out the Borg Queen...that was a very Picard thing to do.

And he did that WHY?

Clay you literally are the "Girl With All The Gifts."

Picard is deliberately responsible for two of the dumbest things in Star Trek history. First, he chose not to return Hugh to the collective with the optical virus, and therefore did not destroy the Borg when he had the chance. It can be argued that he is personally responsible for every death caused by the Borg thereafter. He should have been removed from command, court-martialed and shot for that.

Second, he burned down Admiral Pressman and told the Romulans about the phasing cloak. Seriously, how do you NOT utilize that technology? Think about all the lives that could have been saved during the Dominion War had Star Fleet had that technology. But NOOOOOOOO, we have to honor a dogshit treaty with the biggest weasels in the galaxy. What an utter ****ing fool.

That's why Sisko is the best captain in Star Trek and its not even close. He got his hands dirty doing what needed to be done and knew it was for the best.

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And yes, it's entirely within Picard's character and past actions not to kill the Borg Queen in this situation.

It’s a party now

Sisko rocked when he poisoned the atmosphere of that planet chasing down his arch nemesis with absolutely ZERO ****s to give.

Pale Moon Light is classic, of course. First time I saw that was great. The scene between Sisko and Garak is my favorite ST scene all time. Makes Picard's 4 lights look like child's play.

The older I get, the further DS9 distances itself from the others as #1.