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ShowtimeSBMVP 10-22-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9041417)
What is so funny, ****face?

Trying to save your ass?

6 starts vs 14 i really hope your ****ing around.

BossChief 10-22-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9041397)
No, he wasn't. Not even close.

He shouldn't have signed with the Giants. He wasn't a good fit for Dennis Green's West Coast offense but no one would sign him after the way things ended in St. Louis.

He came back and was as close as he could have been to another Super Bowl.

Hasselbeck never got to another Super Bowl, nor did he even resurrect his career. He was a journeyman and made poor decisions under pressure and still does to this day.

Kurt Warner was 3-12 in his last two years before Haley got there with Ken Wisenhunt in 2007.

If you want to go all the way back to 2002, the guy was 8-23 as a starter in the NFL PRIOR TO TODD HALEY.

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ShowtimeSBMVP 10-22-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9041418)
Dane I know you aren't a Haley fan but he could coach guys up.

Answer this honestly:

Since Haley was fired which Chiefs player has ascended?

probably Houston but I think the talent was there and started before Haley left. Any one else?

Every Player has taking a step back it look's like, But to be fair Crennel is just a awful coach.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9041418)
Dane I know you aren't a Haley fan but he could coach guys up.

Answer this honestly:

Since Haley was fired which Chiefs player has ascended?

probably Houston but I think the talent was there and started before Haley left. Any one else?

What player(s) ascended while Haley was head coach?

Please don't say Bowe, as Bowe was already a 1,000 yard receiver.

D.J. "ascended" but my information has led me to believe that it was due to Romeo, not Haley. But since I can't share, I'll say it's a push.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9041421)
Kurt Warner was 3-12 in his last two years before Haley got there with Ken Wisenhunt in 2007.

If you want to go all the way back to 2002, the guy was 8-23 as a starter in the NFL PRIOR TO TODD HALEY.

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Sorry, I don't buy that Todd Haley magically resurrected his career. That's ****ing laughable.

If anything, it was Whisenhunt and the Erhart/Perkins offense, not anything Todd Haley did.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-22-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9041427)
What player(s) ascended while Haley was head coach?

Please don't say Bowe, as Bowe was already a 1,000 yard receiver.

D.J. "ascended" but my information has led me to believe that it was due to Romeo, not Haley. But since I can't share, I'll say it's a push.

Yeah cause Haley benching DJ in 09 when crennel wasn't here had nothing to do with. JFC this guy is funny.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9041420)
6 starts vs 14 i really hope your ****ing around.

Again, WHAT THE **** IS YOUR POINT?

First, you say to compare the years. I did. The QB rating was virtually identical. Then, you laugh and say this.

Again, what's your ****ing point?

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9041434)
Yeah cause Haley benching DJ in 09 when crennel wasn't here had nothing to do with. JFC this guy is funny.

Do you know ANYTHING about Derrick Johnson's personal life?

If not, SHUT THE **** UP.

And "This Guy" is going to destroy your stupid ass.

Buckle up, ****. You're in for a long ****ing ride.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-22-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9041438)
Do you know ANYTHING about Derrick Johnson's personal life?

If not, SHUT THE **** UP.

And "This Guy" is going to destroy your stupid ass.

Buckle up, ****. You're in for a long ****ing ride.

DJ this year has taking a step back ? If it was Crennel why is this?

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9041441)
DJ this year has taking a step back ? If it was Crennel why is this?

I'm not answering the question until YOU answer the question.

That's how it works, Dumbass.

Actually, you have MULTIPLE unanswered questions, genius.

BossChief 10-22-2012 10:51 PM

There is no arguing against FACTS, Dane.

Its not like I'm throwing out a bunch of my opinions here, Im hitting ya with straight factual evidence.

Kurt Warner won 8 games in 5 years and then under Haleys playcalling, he was in the superbowl in less than 2 seasons.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-22-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9041445)
I'm not answering the question until YOU answer the question.

That's how it works, Dumbass.

How can you compare 6 starts vs 14 is all I'm asking? Cassel in 2010 during his hot 6 weeks was up in 90's rating. A lot harder to do it over 14 games then 6.

Dave Lane 10-22-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9041441)
DJ this year has taking a step back ? If it was Crennel why is this?

Hell the whole team has taken 2 steps back. Either Haley was a master manipulator (Flowers was a favorite of Haleys) or Crennel is a dumpster fire.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9041452)
How can you compare 6 starts vs 14 is all I'm asking? Cassel in 2010 during his hot 6 weeks was up in 90's rating. A lot harder to do it over 14 games then 6.

Give me a ****ing break.

You stated that Warner was worse in 2006 than 2007, yet his stats disagree, the very SAME stats in which you stated told the story.

You lose.

ShowtimeSBMVP 10-22-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9041460)
Give me a ****ing break.

You stated that Warner was worse in 2006 than 2007, yet his stats disagree, the very SAME stats in which you stated told the story.

You lose.

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