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Coach 06-15-2010 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6821831)
Well, there was that one game between Kansas and Texas. You know, dollar signs. LMAO

Yeah, I remember.

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007 06-15-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6821833)
Yeah, I remember.

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Just being in position to win that game was good enough for me. Too bad it had to end that way.:shake:

Coach 06-15-2010 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6821728)
The St. Louis Post Dispatch has an article out saying that the new Big 12 will have three tiered system for football payouts. First tier will be OU, UT, and A&M at 20+ million dollars a year. The second tier will be Ok. State and Texas Tech at 15-17 million a year. The last tier is everyone else at 14 million or less a year.

Missouri has to be led by some of the world's all time greatest ****ups to go from thinking they had a sure thing in the Big 10 to getting a train ran on them by the Big 12 South minus Baylor. Here is the article.



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...1?OpenDocument

Here's a question though. Of the last tier schools, 14 million or less, how much of a jump is it from what they previously got before?

DaKCMan AP 06-15-2010 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 6821691)
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If you wanted to know what scares Texas, the Aggies unloaded the kryptonite. If Texas is Sentenza il brutto, the SEC is Tuco il cattivo. If the A&M gave the keys of Texas high school football to the SEC and its greasy palms, UT could no longer so easily usher in its preferred prospects on Junior Day and pressure them into committing. You don’t want a guy like Nick Saban sniffing around the DFW Metroplex and Houston, selling kids on the best football conference in the nation (which it still is).
But A&M’s bluff had a lot more bite than UT’s threat to disavow College Station. An encroachment from the east by the SEC, coupled with an inevitable partnership with the West, would have put Texas in a kind of checkmate. Far from consolidating its power from Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean, the two moves combined would have eroded what makes Texas…Texas.

Exactly.

LTL 06-15-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6821838)
Here's a question though. Of the last tier schools, 14 million or less, how much of a jump is it from what they previously got before?

According to the article 2007 was the last year the numbers were made public. KU and Missouri get the shaft in this, while Okie State and Tech improve their standings.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...ng-will-remain


KANSAS CITY--Though it's not an issue that will ultimately push schools to leave, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe slammed the door shut on any chance of the Big 12 restructuring it's conference revenue structure in order to keep schools like Nebraska and Missouri from leaving.

"Revenue distribution's been very well vetted within the conference and the board has determined that our method of distribution, which was appropriate when the conference was formed, based upon what was needed to form the conference, is one that will continue," Beebe said. "One athletics director that's been on the side of wanting more equal distribution said, 'It's not necessarily discriminatory. I've come around to a different view. If my program is elevated, which it has been recently, and I get more appearances, I get more money."

Beebe declined to name said athletic director, but that certainly sounds like words that could come from Missouri athletic director Mike Alden. Beebe added that there are people within the conference that would perhaps prefer a different method, but said "I don't know that if you threw all these schools together and they had the option, that it would be done any differently."

Big 12 schools share half of their television revenue equally between the 12 programs within the conference. Schools that play in more televised games receive a greater share of the other half.

The last year revenue data was made public was 2007, and here's who earned how much, according to the Omaha World-Herald:

1. Texas: $10.2 million

2. Oklahoma: $9.8 million

3. Kansas: $9.24 million

4. Texas A&M: $9.22 million

5. Nebraska: $9.1 million

6. Missouri: $8.4 million

7. Texas Tech: $8.23 million

8. Kansas State: $8.21 million

9. Oklahoma State: $8.1 million

10. Colorado: $8.0 million

11. Iowa State: $7.4 million

12. Baylor: $7.1 million


Big Ten teams received a reported $22 million over the last fiscal year, up from $14 million in the 2006-07 fiscal year, in part because of the success of the Big Ten Network, which launched in August 2007.

According to a report in the Lincoln Journal Star, the network generated $204 million in revenue in 2009.

Coach 06-15-2010 06:46 AM

Based on a TV deal in the works that could pay upwards of $25 million per year, Texas leaned toward staying in a 10-team Big 12 for the foreseeable future, Orangebloods.com reported, citing sources familiar with negotiations.

Texas stands to earn between $20 million and $25 million annually in television revenue in the reworked deal, including money from its own network, according to Orangebloods.com.

The other seven schools in the Big 12 would make between $14 million and $17 million, doubling what they currently receive in TV revenue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5286672

Coach 06-15-2010 06:54 AM

I also think the deal-breaker on this, other than the money amount, was that "chance for each school to have its own network."

So, here's hoping to see something like,

"Wildcat Network"
"PowerMizzou TV"
"RockChalk Network"

Each university could make some money on the side in their own terms.

And at the same time, as a 10-team league, the Big 12 would be more profitable than having a 12 team, IMHO. While losing Nebraska does hurt in terms of value, losing Colorado was a god-send, because Colorado was CLEARLY underperforming, and was not worth a shit keeping.

And most likely, Nebraska and Colorado will eventually have to pay the exit penalty.

Pay up, suckass!

alnorth 06-15-2010 07:10 AM

As far as KU is concerned, they should be fine with it. Their football revenue from the conference just about doubles with the promise of more someday if they ever elevate their program.

The reason why basketball isn't as important to the conference is because the way its set up now (ignoring the tournament) each school basically keeps almost all the money they bring in. Almost every Jayhawk game is a national tv game with the network writing a check to Kansas. Because of their elite program, Kansas makes a freaking ton of money despite getting slightly below-BCS-average football payout.

ArrowheadHawk 06-15-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6821869)
I also think the deal-breaker on this, other than the money amount, was that "chance for each school to have its own network."

So, here's hoping to see something like,

"Wildcat Network"
"PowerMizzou TV"
"RockChalk Network"

Each university could make some money on the side in their own terms.

And at the same time, as a 10-team league, the Big 12 would be more profitable than having a 12 team, IMHO. While losing Nebraska does hurt in terms of value, losing Colorado was a god-send, because Colorado was CLEARLY underperforming, and was not worth a shit keeping.

And most likely, Nebraska and Colorado will eventually have to pay the exit penalty.

Pay up, suckass!

Maybee we could see the the games from start to finish and not miss tipoff. What if the other 9 schools made a Big X Network - Texas.

ArrowheadHawk 06-15-2010 07:23 AM

My season football tickets will look a lot better when we drop a cupcake and add another home conference game.

ChiefsNWildcats 06-15-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6821895)
Maybee we could see the the games from start to finish and not miss tipoff. What if the other 9 schools made a Big X Network - Texas.

That is what I was thinking. I know a network for each smaller school wouldn't work. But what about a Big 8 schools network or something. Not the name, just talking about the schools involved. Sure OU would probably garner the most money there, but each school would get some more profit.

Should give more things to fill the air time when you use 6 (Big 8 minus NU and CU) rather than a single school.

Saulbadguy 06-15-2010 07:55 AM

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That wasn't enough to stop Colorado, which moved to the Pac-10 last week in spite of Beebe's criticism that the league's "facilities and fair weather fans are a disappointment." It also didn't stop Nebraska, which moved to the Big Ten last week in spite of Beebe's warning about "linking the future with a part of the country that is losing population and tax base relative to the Sun Belt."
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KChiefs1 06-15-2010 07:59 AM

Expect to see 3 cupcake non-conference games since everyone will have 9 conference games against the likes of Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Tech....

DaKCMan AP 06-15-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6821941)
Expect to see 3 cupcake non-conference games since everyone will have 9 conference games against the likes of Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Texas Tech....

2 cupcakes + 1 real OOC + conference play would be better.

buddha 06-15-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6821946)
2 cupcakes + 1 real OOC + conference play would be better.

Better for who? Not for the team who is trying to make a run at a BCS bowl. Strength of schedule doesn't figure into the mix, so it's even more of a race to sign up the lower tier D1 programs for the NC schedule.

Alden and Deaton completely fucked Missouri on this deal.


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