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jd1020 12-19-2012 11:54 AM

RG3 can do what Smith can but Smith can't do what RG3 can.

Smith = RG3? :spock:

Mr. Laz 12-19-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9223940)
There are some parallels between Smith and Griffin. I would say Griffin is clearly more gifted athletically, but I don't think Smith is all that far behind as a quarterback prospect, and as I've said before I would not be surprised if he's suddenly the flavor of the month by March, once the bowl season, combine and workouts are over.

I imagine Smith will look fantastic in throwing drills etc.

physically looks the part
seems intelligent/well-spoken
throws fantastic
productive stats in college

he'll shoot up the draft boards like Griffin imo

Mr. Laz 12-19-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9223948)
RG3 can do what Smith can but Smith can't do what RG3 can.

Smith = RG3? :spock:

but i don't think people really want their QB to run like Griffin does.

they just can't last for long when they do

Quesadilla Joe 12-19-2012 11:55 AM

Kiper is doing a live chat in about 5 minutes if you guys want to try and debate him about Geno...

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chats

jd1020 12-19-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9223953)
but i don't people really want their QB to run like Griffin does.

they just can't last for long when they do

Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Smith does not = RG3. RG3 was/is clearly the better QB prospect.

O.city 12-19-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9223895)
Completely untrue. I and others have posted links where in early November he was the 12th rated prospect and he climbed steadily into a top pick by early December.

If Geno was as good as you think every single media entity would be hying him up like Luck. The real scouts aren't as enamored with him as you are which is why you are seeing constant reports about no QB at the top spot right now.

Which would be AFTER he won the Heisman, which is what Sac is saying.

bevischief 12-19-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9223576)
I'd take Cameron ahead of Norvelle as well.

But I'd actually love to see Chan Gailey back in KC as the OC if the Bills fired him.

That guy has shown his versatility and adaptability over the years.

Imaginative and creative.

In a heartbeat.

milkman 12-19-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9223957)
Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Smith does not = RG3. RG3 was/is clearly the better QB prospect.

I disagree.

RGIII is more athletically gifted, but Smith has superior pocket awareness.

Mr. Laz 12-19-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9223957)
Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Smith does not = RG3. RG3 was/is clearly the better QB prospect.

i'm not sure how to explain it

a negative = a positive?

addition by subtraction?

not being the running threat that Griffin is will ultimately make Smith a better NFL QB?

not running forces a QB to focus on learning defenses

not running usually makes a QB more durable


see what i'm saying?

jmo

keg in kc 12-19-2012 12:06 PM

I would say the only advantage RG3 had (as a prospect) over Smith was his ability to run, which was not the reason he was drafted where he was. Smith may actually be more polished as a player in the pocket (although Griffin was very, very polished himself in that sense - there's too much talk about his running). I think the main difference in the two at this point is the team record, which colors the "pedigree". WVU's defense manages to make a stop in a couple of the shootouts, and we're talking about Smith as a Heisman candidate, or a Heisman winner, and his draft status is in absolutely no question.

But, hey, I've been wrong before.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9223895)
Completely untrue. I and others have posted links where in early November he was the 12th rated prospect and he climbed steadily into a top pick by early December.

If Geno was as good as you think every single media entity would be hying him up like Luck. The real scouts aren't as enamored with him as you are which is why you are seeing constant reports about no QB at the top spot right now.

Real scouts or idiotic draftniks/sports guys that have probably seen as much Geno as the casual fan?

And don't start the Kiper bullshit because I'll point you in the direction of where he said Jamarcus Russell was on the same level as Elway.

And I'll also remind you of the Manning/Leaf debate where most teams had them neck and neck. (I believe Marty once stated that they had Leaf over Manning.)

Sorry, but I've watched a lot of Geno and he's got a lot of the same skill set/tools/talent as the following guys:

Warren Moon and Aaron Rogers

Same size, same arm, same pocket presence, etc.

And, oddly enough, both of those guys got passed over in the draft. Moon for an entire draft in what has become the greatest draft snafu of all time and Rogers by 23 other teams - all of which who would love to have that chance back. (I still remember watching as the Chiefs pick came up and saying that I can't believe we will get a chance at Rogers. Green was at the tail end of his career and Huard was a stiff. It was like ****ing Christmas that this guy dropped right into our laps. And then they take a strongside linebacker that couldn't take on and shed blocks. **** you Carl Peterson.)

Quesadilla Joe 12-19-2012 12:12 PM

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...guru-mel-kiper

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1725/212121112.png

O.city 12-19-2012 12:15 PM

Please stay out of this thread, you have your own thread.

jd1020 12-19-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9223967)
I disagree.

RGIII is more athletically gifted, but Smith has superior pocket awareness.

I guess I don't see the superior pocket awareness.

RG3 was always eyes down field and extending plays by scrambling in college, too. What sets RG3 apart is his athletic ability. Smith simply can't touch RG3's ability, it's not who he is.

In the end we are trying to compare who was/is the better prospect.

Is there a single professional, that isn't emotionally attached to the situation, that regards Smith as high of a prospect as RG3?

Quesadilla Joe 12-19-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224017)
Please stay out of this thread, you have your own thread.

You are the biggest whiny crybaby on this website. And I never insult anybody so that is saying something.


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