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milkman 12-19-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224158)
I guess I just don't see this "better passer" argument.

Geno has a better understanding of distance and velocity.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9224143)
I completely disagree with that assessment. Smith typically had lots of time in the pocket.

His offensive line was a sieve. Horrible.

The reason he has time in the pocket is that he has an uncanny ability to utilize the pocket and feel pressure and move away from it and make the pass.

Geno makes shit look a whole lot better than it was.

And he had to force it in nearly every game as his defense was, literally, one of the very worst in the entire FBS division. 107 out of 120. That's horrible.

And yet the guy still passes for a 70.1% completion, 40 TD's against 6 Ints and should have been 10-2 until his defense gave up three last minute drives that lost the game that Geno nearly miraculously won.

If his defense doesn't shit the bed in those three games, he likely wins the Heisman and is in another BCS bowl and people talk for years about his historic level season. (Like he was the season prior where he won the 2012 Orange Bowl MVP and broke all of Tom Brady's Orange Bowl passing records.)

Geno Smith is as good as it gets folks.

jd1020 12-19-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9224169)
Geno has a better understanding of distance and velocity.

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Saccopoo 12-19-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9224164)
I like Geno, but c'mon dude. He is NOT RG3 and as of right now he is not as good of a prospect as RG3 was.

Just a foolish claim, especially since the combine hasn't happened yet for Geno.

Tell me why then.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224173)
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Milk is correct on this.

Geno has a cannon for an arm, but uses it judiciously relating to the depth and speed of the receiver.

He's got a fabulous awareness and timing with the receiver and the ball and the required velocity to get it to that exact point.

He's not Brett Favre splitting guys hands open with 347 mph passes that are running five yard outs.

He's not Sam Bradford or Alex Smith who are insanely accurate, but can't effectively pass at this level past 20 yards.

Imon Yourside 12-19-2012 01:14 PM

Can someone convince me that Geno is #1 on our list outside of CP? What if we're all getting so excited over something that will never happen? I don't trust this franchise for one second to draft him, no matter who is in charge..especially Pissoli.

Chiefnj2 12-19-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224205)
Milk is correct on this.

Geno has a cannon for an arm, but uses it judiciously relating to the depth and speed of the receiver.

He's got a fabulous awareness and timing with the receiver and the ball and the required velocity to get it to that exact point.

He's not Brett Favre splitting guys hands open with 347 mph passes that are running five yard outs.

He's not Sam Bradford or Alex Smith who are insanely accurate, but can't effectively pass at this level past 20 yards.

That cannon wasn't present against Texas Tech in a windy stadium. Lots of balls sailing on him.

Above average arm, not a cannon.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9224233)
That cannon wasn't present against Texas Tech in a windy stadium. Lots of balls sailing on him.

Above average arm, not a cannon.

Holy shit!

John Elway would have had balls sail on him in the first three quarters of that game. It was a ****ing typhoon.

keg in kc 12-19-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9224166)
I did embellish a bit, but the point I was making is that RGIII had far better protection at Baylor than Smith does at WVU.

WVU's line got absolutely abused once they started playing the big xii schedule, as well as against Maryland. I love that Maryland game in fact, as it was one where WVU couldn't run the ball and Smith took a beating but he still delivered.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9224223)
Can someone convince me that Geno is #1 on our list outside of CP?

Nope.

Until draft day, it's all hypothetical.

However, he's the #1 QB in this draft at this point and the Chiefs QB situation could be described as dire at best.

It's a perfect scenario of need meets player meets actual draft pick.

It hasn't happened to us very much over the past 30 years.

I'm willing to take the QB in that situation and I think Geno is a particularly good QB prospect.

RunKC 12-19-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224184)
Tell me why then.

1. Better athleticism that changes games.
2. Has the "it" factor and will literally put teams on his back and will them to victory regardless of the circumstance.
3. His football IQ is incredible. We don't know Geno's for sure just yet. He's "rumored" to have a good football IQ, but he's struggled in some areas such as blitz pickups and defensive formations. RG3 we know for sure knows everything. Geno is still unknown like the rest of his class until February.
4. Has elite people skills. Can't say how important that is for a QB. Huge for leadership.
5. Has great accuracy and arm strength just like Geno (see Thanksgiving game vs Cowboys for best recent example).

Imon Yourside 12-19-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224252)
Nope.

Until draft day, it's all hypothetical.

However, he's the #1 QB in this draft at this point and the Chiefs QB situation could be described as dire at best.

It's a perfect scenario of need meets player meets actual draft pick.

It hasn't happened to us very much over the past 30 years.

I'm willing to take the QB in that situation and I think Geno is a particularly good QB prospect.

We're just setting ourselves up for a huge fall here then, because we NEVER do the right thing...We are the...(wait for it)............................







CHIEFS!!!!!!!

keg in kc 12-19-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9224253)
1. Better athleticism that changes games.
2. Has the "it" factor and will literally put teams on his back and will them to victory regardless of the circumstance.
3. His football IQ is incredible. We don't know Geno's for sure just yet. He's "rumored" to have a good football IQ, but he's struggled in some areas such as blitz pickups and defensive formations. RG3 we know for sure knows everything. Geno is still unknown like the rest of his class until February.
4. Has elite people skills. Can't say how important that is for a QB. Huge for leadership.
5. Has great accuracy and arm strength just like Geno (see Thanksgiving game vs Cowboys for best recent example).

Wow, that's some revisionist history on Griffin. Draft 'guru' impressions in November and December of last year about Griffin were almost exactly what we're hearing about Smith now. And you'd see people arguing here on this very board right up until April about whether he really warranted a top-10 pick. Funny now that he's had a great rookie season everybody always knew.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9224136)
LOL, Mel name dropped Glennon out of the blue

ROFL

htismaqe 12-19-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224093)
He wouldn't have gotten hurt if he ran out of bounds for his first injury and he wouldn't have been injured if he slid for his second injury...

His issue isn't running. It's taking more than he's given, like I said before which you conveniently ignored.

You're assuming that he can run out of bounds or slide on EVERY play.

He can't.

Sooner or later he's gonna get hurt again, no matter how many precautions he takes, because he runs the ball a lot for a QB.


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