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RunKC 12-19-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224367)
No argument. He's got better athleticism than any other QB in the entire NFL. However, I don't see where that is really a deciding factor in terms of being a better QB. As I pointed out, Brady might be the most unathletic QB in the NFL and he seems to be a pretty good player. Irrelevent in terms of that making him a better prospect.









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Indeed.

That's amazing stuff. And I really like Geno. I genuinely do.
I'm just not ready to say he's a better prospect than RG3 was right now without the Senior Bowl or combine. So much can happen in that time frame.

RG3 had the best combine I've ever seen from a physical and mental standpoint, so forgive me for thinking that right now Geno isn't as good in those areas since he has no definitive proof with NFL GM's/HC's.

jd1020 12-19-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9224407)
Sac was the first guy here, as far as I remember, who was dedicated to Geno.

No.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224336)
RGIII led a team that nearly lost to the worst team in division 1 college football last year.


If WVU's defense gets one stop this year, Geno gets hyped for throwing 3 td's in the 4th quarter to beat a top 10 defense.

Shhhh...you are going to ruin the "Let's hop into the Delorean and draft Bobby Griffin for the 2013 Chiefs" movement.

Sorter 12-19-2012 02:04 PM

"I wanna go somewhere where they needed me"

**** YESSSS!!!!!!! Welcome to KC, you beautiful bastard you!!

jd1020 12-19-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224433)
Shhhh...you are going to ruin the "Let's hop into the Delorean and draft Bobby Griffin for the 2013 Chiefs" movement.

ROFL

Who is even talking about drafting RG3?

Reaper16 12-19-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224430)
No.

Who?

jd1020 12-19-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9224439)
Who?

Geno has been on the minds of some people since last year. Sacc wasn't even fully on board with Geno at the start of the season.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224380)
Of all my years here, I never thought I would see Sac fight the good fight this hard.

When you see someone like Sac, who spends a monster amount of time on this stuff, goes this much all in on a QB, something i don't think he's ever done, you take note.

Well done sir, well done.

Since 2005, the quarterbacks that the Chiefs could have realistically drafted that I felt were worthy of spending a high round pick on are:

2005: Aaron Rogers
2011: Colin Kaepernick

And at this stage, I like Geno Smith better than either of them.

I don't like wasting picks on guys just to get a guy at the position. Mark Sanchez, Jimmy Clausen...those are wasting the pick.

Geno Smith is not a wasted pick and it's a perfect storm in terms of team needs, player availability, pick, etc.

Geno Smith is the guy. Period.

Imon Yourside 12-19-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224450)
Since 2005, the quarterbacks that the Chiefs could have realistically drafted that I felt were worthy of spending a high round pick on are:

2005: Aaron Rogers
2011: Colin Kaepernick

And at this stage, I like Geno Smith better than either of them.

I don't like wasting picks on guys just to get a guy at the position. Mark Sanchez, Jimmy Clausen...those are wasting the pick.

Geno Smith is not a wasted pick and it's a perfect storm in terms of team needs, player availability, pick, etc.

Geno Smith is the guy. Period.

Apply for the GM position then, only way to make sure it happens.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224441)
Geno has been on the minds of some people since last year. Sacc wasn't even fully on board with Geno at the start of the season.

Sure I was. I was on board with him after watching WVU play his sophomore year.

In fact, I posted somewhere that I was full on Geno right before the season began. Draft Planet I believe.

And I've already done it previously, but I'll throw out a name for future considerations:

Chuckie Keeton

Don't say I wasn't a bandwagon jumper on that guy either.

Reaper16 12-19-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224441)
Geno has been on the minds of some people since last year. Sacc wasn't even fully on board with Geno at the start of the season.

From August: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=130

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224420)
And I've said it around here recently, I think that it takes an offensive tackle operating out of a college spread a lot more time to adjust to the next level than it does a quarterback.

Look at Okung. His measurables and potential were damn near through the roof, and it's only now that he's finally playing up to that potential. (Playing very well right now in fact.)

If the Chiefs take Joeckel, that's a three/four year project IMO.

People talk about taking QB's from a "pro style set" but there's a reason that offensive linemen out of USC, Boston College and Wisconsin seem to have a much faster successful transition to the pros than other guys who are similarly talented.

Add to this that Joeckel doesn't have anywhere NEAR Okung's potential (at least IMHO).

jd1020 12-19-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9224471)

From September:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...3&postcount=15

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can remember Sacc's first mock for 2013 and the QB was either Barkley or Wilson until it was edited a couple weeks later.

keg in kc 12-19-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9224312)
McShay and Kiper always 'pace' themselves when it comes to mocks and rankings.

I think they deliberately rank players wrong early on to give themselves something to talk and disagree about for t.v. (although i have no documents proving it Dakc)

Eventually their rankings end up very similar, right before the draft, for most player

McShay, while in the same mock says there's no #1 QB in this draft, already has Smith in his top 10 (going 8th IIRC). Virtually the same position he had RG3 at this time last year.

the Talking Can 12-19-2012 02:29 PM

i wish people would watch the 4th quarter of WVU vs Oklahoma...that's the argument for Smith, that's his upside..that's why he is worth the 'risk' (oh noes!)


3 tds against the 8th ranked pass defense in the country....making jaw dropping throws...multiple HOLY SHIT throws (the single best pass in college all year, I'd bet, from his endzone - under pressure - into quadruple coverage for a 30 yard gain)...throws that take big brass balls to make

but his shitty defense gives up a td with 23 secs left and they lose 50-49 and the narrative is set...

and enter the crying true fans...


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