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alnorth 02-05-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 7409062)
Zach?? Might have been nice to sign him.

You literally do not know what you are talking about.

Captain Obvious 02-05-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 7409062)
Zach?? Might have been nice to sign him.

Your. And. Idiot.

alnorth 02-05-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 7409027)
You read something that gave you a little faith, and you're not willing to question it.

This is not "a little faith" 18 of the last 20 years, and 10 out of the last 10, the best farm system quickly made the playoffs. Rob freaking Neyer of all people wrote about possibly hopping back onto the Royals bandwagon. People around the country who have no reason to give a rat's ass about the Royals think they are about to be a good team.

If you are not optimistic, then you have some sort of strange psychological block preventing you from thinking anything but "rar glASS!"

jbwm89 02-05-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7409092)
This is not "a little faith" 18 of the last 20 years, and 10 out of the last 10, the best farm system quickly made the playoffs. Rob freaking Neyer of all people wrote about possibly hopping back onto the Royals bandwagon. People around the country who have no reason to give a rat's ass about the Royals think they are about to be a good team.

If you are not optimistic, then you have some sort of strange psychological block preventing you from thinking anything but "rar glASS!"

Or your just baseball stupid.

duncan_idaho 02-05-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7409031)
Yeah, Minnesota's ownership "cares." Pohlad offered his team up for contraction. But he "cares." No, they just happen to win games.

Minnesota committed to the same process the Royals are using way back in the late 90s. The Royals have been run a completely different way since mid-2006. Very similar to the Twins.

The Twins built things the right way - which is slow and requires a lot of patience. Now their fans are reaping the benefits. The Royals are about where the Twins were in 1999/2000. The change is on the horizon.

Those of us that are patiently remaining passionate about the future will reap the reward of knowing our faith was there BEFORE they got good again. That will satisfying.:D

duncan_idaho 02-05-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 7409062)
Zach?? Might have been nice to sign him.

They tried to extend him again starting mid-2009. He showed no interest in it at all because he wasn't willing to wait two more years for reinforcements.

Damon, Dye and Beltran were money issues. Greinke wasn't close to being a money issue.

The "Royals are too cheap are just trade all their players cuz they can't pay them" argument is well past its expiration date. But keep trotting it out if you want to keep making it obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

alnorth 02-05-2011 07:45 PM

All that said, its not impossible for everything to go completely to hell. You have to go back a little bit, but it has happened.

In 1997 the Pittsburgh Pirates had Baseball America's #1 farm system. They took all that talent and proceeded to turn that into an epic failure, doing no better than 2nd in the division (which doesn't count since they had a losing record and lost by a mile, they mostly finished 4th every year) through 2005. 8 years later, nothing. Not every team who had the #1 system since 1990 did anything spectacular, but they almost all (and all of them in the 2000's) at least won their division once within 5-6 years.

We might be due for another epic failure where a team completely squanders a #1 farm system, but hopefully it wont be the Royals.

jbwm89 02-05-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7409128)
All that said, its not impossible for everything to go completely to hell. You have to go back a little bit, but it has happened.

In 1997 the Pittsburgh Pirates had Baseball America's #1 farm system. They took all that talent and proceeded to turn that into an epic failure, doing no better than 2nd in the division (which doesn't count since they had a losing record and lost by a mile, they mostly finished 4th every year) through 2005. 8 years later, nothing. Not every team who had the #1 system since 1990 did anything spectacular, but they almost all (and all of them in the 2000's) at least won their division once within 5-6 years.

We might be due for another epic failure where a team completely squanders a #1 farm system, but hopefully it wont be the Royals.

That would break my spirits. What do you do after that? It would have to kill even the most faithful fan's loyalty.

GloryDayz 02-05-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7409066)
Shitty thing about that is players have to sign the contract and if they refuse too then you can't really make them.

Well, don't you think that's one of the other "challenges" the Royals have? How may FAs would say, "Hey, I want to play for the Royals..." I think they're more likey to say, "Look, I'm not saying no, but the price just doubled - I like to win, and you're going to pay to turm me into a loser..."

jbwm89 02-05-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 7409149)
Well, don't you think that's one of the other "challenges" the Royals have? How may FAs would say, "Hey, I want to play for the Royals..." I think they're more likey to say, "Look, I'm not saying no, but the price just doubled - I like to win, and you're going to pay to turm me into a loser..."

besides ZG name me a FA this offseason you wish we would have signed.

GloryDayz 02-05-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7409085)
You literally do not know what you are talking about.

Really? Is Zach a Royal any more you clown? Did he choose to leave? What don't I get Dr. Baseball? Oh, tell me about all the prospects we got in him place. LOL, 28th verse, same as the 1st!!! This ought to be some great tap dancing and insight!

GloryDayz 02-05-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 7409090)
Your. And. Idiot.

Same thing, enlighten me... You idiot!

GloryDayz 02-05-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7409108)
They tried to extend him again starting mid-2009. He showed no interest in it at all because he wasn't willing to wait two more years for reinforcements.

Damon, Dye and Beltran were money issues. Greinke wasn't close to being a money issue.

The "Royals are too cheap are just trade all their players cuz they can't pay them" argument is well past its expiration date. But keep trotting it out if you want to keep making it obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Who brought up money? You... I never said money was the whole issue, you seem to think those of us who are over the Royals (and paid for their upgraded digs) seem to want only cash dropped on them. I'm willing to bet all of those players might have stayed if they thought they could contend. Yet none of them did. Why? Because they know baseball, and they know something is wrong. Had Zach stayed and verified your story that they're headed int he right direction, I say I'm sorry, but he left. That should tell you all you need to know about how "close" we are.

GloryDayz 02-05-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7409128)
All that said, its not impossible for everything to go completely to hell. You have to go back a little bit, but it has happened.

In 1997 the Pittsburgh Pirates had Baseball America's #1 farm system. They took all that talent and proceeded to turn that into an epic failure, doing no better than 2nd in the division (which doesn't count since they had a losing record and lost by a mile, they mostly finished 4th every year) through 2005. 8 years later, nothing. Not every team who had the #1 system since 1990 did anything spectacular, but they almost all (and all of them in the 2000's) at least won their division once within 5-6 years.

We might be due for another epic failure where a team completely squanders a #1 farm system, but hopefully it wont be the Royals.

I hope you're right. The thruth is I want to go out to the park and see great things. I'm just convinced that glASS is just stingy and arrogant enough to keep that from happening.

alnorth 02-05-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 7409158)
Really? Is Zach a Royal any more you clown? Did he choose to leave? What don't I get Dr. Baseball? Oh, tell me about all the prospects we got in him place. LOL, 28th verse, same as the 1st!!! This ought to be some great tap dancing and insight!

If you actually cared to know, you'd already have read that he did not want to stay with the Royals for any amount of money and the team thought he likely would have sat out spring training.

I don't mind talking with people I disagree with who aren't idiots (UCFGoldenKnight), but you are a troll who seems to delight in getting on people's nerves just for the pleasure of seeing them react. Making sense doesn't really matter, its all about giggling at the reaction.

I'm not playing anymore, you are on ignore.


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