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Carlota69 11-23-2011 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136027)
If we claim him and he doesn't report, we own him into next season which would ****ing rock because then we can trade his ass and hopefully get *SOMETHING* for him.

I would rather claim him and he not report than not claim him at all.
Yep. By claiming him we really dont lose anything, but we could gain alot.

pr_capone 11-23-2011 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136031)
And I love how everyone uses Tom Brady to assume that every QB taken in the 5th-7th round could be the next Hall of Famer.

BUT TOM BRADY DID IT!
I understand that... but can we at least give the guy a few snaps before chucking him into the scrap heap?

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-23-2011 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136031)
And I love how everyone uses Tom Brady to assume that every QB taken in the 5th-7th round could be the next Hall of Famer.

BUT TOM BRADY DID IT!
Isn't that why we waited to take Stanzi in the 5th rather than the 3rd? He's a sure thing now!

The Franchise 11-23-2011 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136027)
If we claim him and he doesn't report, we own him into next season which would ****ing rock because then we can trade his ass and hopefully get *SOMETHING* for him.

I would rather claim him and he not report than not claim him at all.
He's a FA next year. We wouldn't own him unless we gave him a new contract or slapped the Franchise tag on him.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-23-2011 02:50 PM
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Pretty strong suspicion Kyle Orton about to become a Chicago Bear. Waiver deadline is in a few minutes

jd1020 11-23-2011 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136031)
And I love how everyone uses Tom Brady to assume that every QB taken in the 5th-7th round could be the next Hall of Famer.

BUT TOM BRADY DID IT!
I'm not. This team doesn't have a QB. Stanzi looked to be the most promising QB on the team in preseason...

Stanzi has this thing called "potential." Just like every other top QB in the league.

pr_capone 11-23-2011 02:51 PM
How ****ing pathetic is this. I am so desperate for ANY positive news for the Chiefs that I'm all atwitter over the possibility of a Dungver reject.

Titty Meat 11-23-2011 02:51 PM
Well shit LaCanFora is usually right.

Los Pollos Hermanos 11-23-2011 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8136025)
But we get a comp draft pick if we claim him. And if he doesnt report, we still get the pick and we dont have to pay his salary. Plus we **** over the Bears, and Orton. I say go for it.
The NFL doesn't have to award us a comp pick for him. In all likely hood, they wouldn't give us a comp pick for a player that didn't play but 5-6 games and the Chiefs gave up nothing for.

$2.5 million is a pretty big gamble.

The Franchise 11-23-2011 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136034)
I understand that... but can we at least give the guy a few snaps before chucking him into the scrap heap?
I'm all for it. People must be assuming that because I wanted Orton here...that I didn't want Stanzi to get reps. I just don't see any indication that this FO is willing to give him those reps.

If I was Haley.....Stanzi would have gotten the start after Cassel went down. Palko is shit. He's proven that he doesn't have it and the probably never will.

Carlota69 11-23-2011 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136040)
How ****ing pathetic is this. I am so desperate for ANY positive news for the Chiefs that I'm all atwitter over the possibility of a Dungver reject.
:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

talastan 11-23-2011 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 8136015)
The Stanzi man crush that some have around here amuses the hell out of me. Name me one QB taken in the 5th round or later in the last 15 years (not named Tom Brady) that you'd want over Cassel. Matt Hasselbeck and Marc Bulger in their prime, maybe. That's it.

Stanzi played in a high-profile program in college. He's not some diamond in the rough. Every scout in the NFL knows exactly what he can do, and every team passed on him at least 4 times.

I understand the "Let's see what he's got" mentality, but the fact is that the coaches already have a pretty good idea what he's got. They obviously don't think he's the guy.
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136031)
And I love how everyone uses Tom Brady to assume that every QB taken in the 5th-7th round could be the next Hall of Famer.

BUT TOM BRADY DID IT!
Again, yes Stanzi is a fifth round pick; Cassel was barely a seventh and Failco was undrafted. If we are going to throw out the draft pick status then again Stanzi should be starting. I don't know of anyone that is claiming he'll be Brady v2.0. But he should according to the scout's evaluations be the best QB we have on the roster.

pr_capone 11-23-2011 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136036)
He's a FA next year. We wouldn't own him unless we gave him a new contract or slapped the Franchise tag on him.
Not if he didn't report. He would not have fulfilled his contract and we wouls still own him. At least that is how I understand it. I could be awfully wrong here tho.

BoneKrusher 11-23-2011 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8136038)
I'm not. This team doesn't have a QB..
i'd say, 16 points in three games..

The Franchise 11-23-2011 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136047)
Not if he didn't report. He would not have fulfilled his contract and we wouls still own him. At least that is how I understand it. I could be awfully wrong here tho.
As far as I understand it....if he doesn't report....he doesn't get paid. He would still be a FA next year.....he just wouldn't get the rest of the money that was on his contract.


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