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O.city 12-19-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9224427)
That's amazing stuff. And I really like Geno. I genuinely do.
I'm just not ready to say he's a better prospect than RG3 was right now without the Senior Bowl or combine. So much can happen in that time frame.

RG3 had the best combine I've ever seen from a physical and mental standpoint, so forgive me for thinking that right now Geno isn't as good in those areas since he has no definitive proof with NFL GM's/HC's.

How did what RGIII did at the combine, from a physical standpoint, have anything to do with how good of a QB he would be? He didn't throw at the combine I don't believe.


And how do you know what he was like mentally?

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224484)
From September:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...3&postcount=15

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can remember Sacc's first mock for 2013 and the QB was either Barkley or Wilson until it was edited a couple weeks later.

Actually, it was Lance Jones as I had us picking in the early 20's and stated that I felt that Geno Smith would already be long gone by then.

Fortunately, the Chiefs have sucked to the point where they realistically hold their own destiny in their hands with potentially the first overall pick.

And that was Geno Smith from Alabama. I remembered that Geno Smith, WVU, was a Parade All-American (probably the single biggest reason I still get the newspaper) and pulled up pics of Geno for whatever reason and just assumed that it was he in that Army AA uni picture. My bad.

But as Reaper pointed out, I was full on Geno at the start of the season and I've pushed the ****ing pedal through the floorboard at this point.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9224328)
99% of them do because word gets leaked out from the teams what the draft boards look like and how teams will draft. When a team then takes a player near where they had them "ranked" they look good.

Exactly.

The mocks they are putting our right now is where they think these players SHOULD go.

As teams start talking about the draft, the mocks start changing and guys like Kiper and McShay are busy updating their boards to reflect where they think these players WILL go.

SAUTO 12-19-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9224501)
i wish people would watch the 4th quarter of WVU vs Oklahoma...that's the argument for Smith, that's his upside..that's why he is worth the 'risk' (oh noes!)


3 tds against the 8th ranked pass defense in the country....making jaw dropping throws...multiple HOLY SHIT throws (the single best pass in college all year, I'd bet, from his endzone - under pressure - into quadruple coverage for a 30 yard gain)...throws that take big brass balls to make

but his shitty defense gives up a td with 23 secs left and they lose 50-49 and the narrative is set...

and enter the crying true fans...

THIS x eleventytrillion.

i dont know how many idiots i have argued with IRL about geno that have NEVER seen him play , but i tell them all exactly what you typed here.

i think that idiot domer comes by my shop about once a week to talk football and i told him earlier exactly this...

oh and that he was an idiot too.

Chiefnj2 12-19-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9224526)
Exactly.

The mocks they are putting our right now is where they think these players SHOULD go.

As teams start talking about the draft, the mocks start changing and guys like Kiper and McShay are busy updating their boards to reflect where they think these players WILL go.

That's why Gosselin's multiple mocks are interesting. The first, IIRC, is the rankings without team considerations, etc.

PhillyChiefFan 12-19-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9224494)
McShay, while in the same mock says there's no #1 QB in this draft, already has Smith in his top 10 (going 8th IIRC). Virtually the same position he had RG3 at this time last year.

I guess I don't understand what I'm missing and why no one seems to give Smith credit:

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT

Sorter 12-19-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 9224561)
I guess I don't understand what I'm missing and why no one seems to give Smith credit:

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT

Gimmick offense, bro. LMAO

the Talking Can 12-19-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 9224561)
I guess I don't understand what I'm missing and why no one seems to give Smith credit:

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT

well, geno is black

jd1020 12-19-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9224520)
Actually, it was Lance Jones as I had us picking in the early 20's and stated that I felt that Geno Smith would already be long gone by then.

Fortunately, the Chiefs have sucked to the point where they realistically hold their own destiny in their hands with potentially the first overall pick.

And that was Geno Smith from Alabama. I remembered that Geno Smith, WVU, was a Parade All-American (probably the single biggest reason I still get the newspaper) and pulled up pics of Geno for whatever reason and just assumed that it was he in that Army AA uni picture. My bad.

But as Reaper pointed out, I was full on Geno at the start of the season and I've pushed the ****ing pedal through the floorboard at this point.

Maybe. Still, you weren't the first to drink the Geno kool-aid.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Geno

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...7&postcount=72

ARROW2 12-19-2012 03:01 PM

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT




yet, there are no Luck's or RGIII's in the draft. Don't believe the bullshit people, Geno is our man....

Reaper16 12-19-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224601)

What I meant to convey back howevermany posts ago was that Sacc was the first person I could remember to be a determined advocate that the Chiefs draft him.

At the same time, thank you for the link to SNR's post. That was the kind of early strong opinion that I was hoping you'd provide.

GoShox 12-19-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 9224561)
I guess I don't understand what I'm missing and why no one seems to give Smith credit:

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT

The stats just spell it out so perfectly. I honestly just don't understand how someone could argue against drafting a QB, especially for this organization. And that QB should easily, easily be Geno.

Saccopoo 12-19-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9224601)

I know SNR was on it early as well and like I said, I have really liked Smith since his sophomore year.

I think CE posted that watching the Orange Bowl where Geno tore it up. It was his game against LSU of his junior year that really cemented it for me. There was no less than 5 first round NFL picks on that defense and he just kept going for broke and making plays with guys hanging on him all game long.

What he did against Clemson in the Orange Bowl and this season was simply icing on the cake. (Though, that OU game is, as it's been stated, remarkable and does show his potential. Unbelievable performance. If you don't think that this guy can't throw a team on his back and do everything he can to get that win after watching that game then I don't what to tell you. Be happy supporting the pick of Joeckel or Te'o then. I don't know what else to say.)

Mr. Laz 12-19-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9224570)
well, geno is black

Griffin is only beige /Rob Parker

Mr. Laz 12-19-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9224494)
McShay, while in the same mock says there's no #1 QB in this draft, already has Smith in his top 10 (going 8th IIRC). Virtually the same position he had RG3 at this time last year.

by the time the draft rolls around Geno Smith will be top 5 and a couple other QB's will probably be in the top 10


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