Better be in the form of a gift card to a specific urologist, otherwise he might blow the money on something else.

You are living in a FANTASY LAND. What if she divorces you and everything is on her terms???? You are screwed!!!(i see you wont answer that question because you're afraid to face that reality, And don't say it wont happen because it quite possibly could and most likely will since you don't have the balls to do it.) And don't talk that "in MO" stuff to me because i live there too I never met a man who had so little a back bone that he waited around to get screwed!! All this time you could have been building a case to get your kids but you do nothing but make excuses on why you cant do it. Instead of making excuses, just do it.

You keep saying its for your kids. Not 1 thing you have done or typed was for your kids. This has all been about you. Its selfish as hell. Your needs take a backseat to your children's when you have kids. They come first and this is not healthy for them. And you think you aren't exposing them to things but you are. Your mannerisms and moods and subtle things that you don't think about, they pick up on. My daughter does it and she's 1!! They know when something isn't right. And you think your kids don't know how to go through your phone???? They probably know how to use it better than you. Stop insulting their intelligence and selling them short. Your underestimation of your children will be their downfall.


All you are doing is justifying your actions so that you can stay in the position you are in. You don't really want to move past this because you already stated that you would take her back and treat that baby as your own. And if this outcome should happen, whats to stop her from doing it again?? In order to get closure from this whole situation, You need to leave her alone, then get your children from her because if you don't, she most assuredly will and you will be left with nothing.

From this point on, happen to the situation, don't let the situation happen to you.

Post this woman's picture. im pretty sure everyone wants to see the woman that makes a man lose all common sense.

I havent been financially irresponsible you dipshit, Ive had perfect credit my entire life. I filed bankruptcy because when my wife left I couldnt afford the mortgage on my own and the house foreclosed. I had a 0 balance on both of my credit cards, the only thing I had to file for was the 55 grand I owed on the house after it was auctioned. I havent spent shit on "dates" either...

not a bad idea, as long as you don't get caught. you should have been doing this for the past year, or something like it build evidence to show shes a selfish bitch unfit to be a mother. Play dirty because she already has and it will get ugly later on. This will end in divorce, the question is are you going to be proactive or reactive?

It doesnt matter who files first anymore. Ive already talked to a lawyer about this.

And what did he say?

He said lots of things, one being it doesnt matter to a judge who the petitioner is or who the respondent is.

I love it!

"I haven't had sex with her for two whole weeks!"

um... She had a child two weeks ago. Of course you haven't. That's not evidence of getting stronger, it's evidence of no access. Of course you had to go out with another skank last night, skank #1 is in the shop and up on blocks.

Apparently you never learned to Jack off.

And did this lawyer tell you what you need to do to strengthen your case to get the kids?

Look at the date of my OP in this thread.

What is YOUR ideal end to this situation?

post a picture of her. im really curious as to what she looks like.

So, is anyone still offering advice ... or is everyone just watching the drama unfold?

He told me what I already knew, that if she fights it I wont be able to get full custody unless I have something really bad on her like past drug use or abuse. He said he could probably get me joint custody no problem but I would most likely still have to pay support.

Apologies.
You went an entire week of not ****ing her before she became unavailable. You're damned near a monk.

My ideal end would be full custody of my kids and her paying me support. But I would settle for joint custody and neither of us having to pay each other anything.