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jd1020 11-23-2011 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136044)
I'm all for it. People must be assuming that because I wanted Orton here...that I didn't want Stanzi to get reps. I just don't see any indication that this FO is willing to give him those reps.

If I was Haley.....Stanzi would have gotten the start after Cassel went down. Palko is shit. He's proven that he doesn't have it and the probably never will.
Also, if you want to go back 15 years, there was this guy named Kurt Warner who debuted in 1998 with the shiny draft round pick of.... Oh wait, he wasnt.

Carlota69 11-23-2011 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas (Post 8136043)
The NFL doesn't have to award us a comp pick for him. In all likely hood, they wouldn't give us a comp pick for a player that didn't play but 5-6 games and the Chiefs gave up nothing for.

$2.5 million is a pretty big gamble.
From PFT
UPDATE 10:35 p.m. ET: As a reader pointed out on Twitter, claiming Orton has another benefit. When he leaves as a free agent in March 2012, the team that employs him for six weeks would be in line for a compensatory draft pick. So there’s one more good reason to consider doing it.

The Franchise 11-23-2011 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8136056)
Also, if you want to go back 15 years, there was this guy named Kurt Warner who debuted in 1998 with the shiny draft round pick of.... Oh wait, he wasnt.
That's two out of how many?


HEY EVERYONE! THERE IS A .000000001 CHANCE THAT STANZI COULD BE THE NEXT HALL OF FAME QB!!!!

rageeumr 11-23-2011 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136044)
I'm all for it. People must be assuming that because I wanted Orton here...that I didn't want Stanzi to get reps. I just don't see any indication that this FO is willing to give him those reps.

If I was Haley.....Stanzi would have gotten the start after Cassel went down. Palko is shit. He's proven that he doesn't have it and the probably never will.
I'm the same way. If my choices are Palko or Stanzi... **** it, throw the kid in there.

But the people shouting NO ORTON, WE MUST GIVE THE SAVIOR STANZI HIS CHANCE make me chuckle.

jd1020 11-23-2011 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136058)
That's two out of how many?


HEY EVERYONE! THERE IS A .000000001 CHANCE THAT STANZI COULD BE THE NEXT HALL OF FAME QB!!!!
And there's like a whopping 6% chance that that 1st round QB you picked will win something significant in his career.

HOLY SHIT! 5% is too much to lose out on to not look at a kid when you have no reason not to.

pr_capone 11-23-2011 02:58 PM
Can we get a ruling from one of the Waiver Wire Gurus here?

If he doesn't report, does he just forefit the rest of his contract or would it be a Plummer like situation where we would own his ass until he reported or was traded?

htismaqe 11-23-2011 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8136031)
And I love how everyone uses Tom Brady to assume that every QB taken in the 5th-7th round could be the next Hall of Famer.

BUT TOM BRADY DID IT!
The fact that Tom Brady happened makes it WORTH giving him playing time.

He's a 5th round pick, which all but guarantees he won't amount to anything. It wouldn't matter what position he played - 5th round picks have a low probability of panning out. Which means you have NOTHING to lose by playing him. If he flops, it's expected. And if he lights it up, you win big for cheap.

jd1020 11-23-2011 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136064)
Can we get a ruling from one of the Waiver Wire Gurus here?

If he doesn't report, does he just forefit the rest of his contract or would it be a Plummer like situation where we would own his ass until he reported or was traded?
Pretty sure he becomes a UFA at the end of the season no matter the situation.

rageeumr 11-23-2011 03:01 PM
Well hell. I guess it's time to wear out my F5 button on Twitter.

The Franchise 11-23-2011 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8136065)
The fact that Tom Brady happened makes it WORTH giving him playing time.

He's a 5th round pick, which all but guarantees he won't amount to anything. It wouldn't matter what position he played - 5th round picks have a low probability of panning out. Which means you have NOTHING to lose by playing him. If he flops, it's expected. And if he lights it up, you win big for cheap.
And I've already stated that that is what I wanted from the beginning. Shit....I would have rather given playing time to Stanzi instead of Cassel.

I'm just tired of the group of people who think that every QB is the next Tom Brady because we drafted him in the 5th round.

Los Pollos Hermanos 11-23-2011 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8136057)
From PFT
UPDATE 10:35 p.m. ET: As a reader pointed out on Twitter, claiming Orton has another benefit. When he leaves as a free agent in March 2012, the team that employs him for six weeks would be in line for a compensatory draft pick. So there’s one more good reason to consider doing it.
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The placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...l_League_Draft

The Chiefs are not going to get much for a player who plays 6 games. Maybe if he gets a monster contract next season. But who's going to give KO a monster contract?

dirk digler 11-23-2011 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8136064)
Can we get a ruling from one of the Waiver Wire Gurus here?

If he doesn't report, does he just forefit the rest of his contract or would it be a Plummer like situation where we would own his ass until he reported or was traded?
PFT
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There would be consequences if he refuses to play for the Chiefs or any other team. For starters, he’d forfeit the balance of his $4.5 million salary in 2011. Also, he’d be subject to an attack on any remaining signing bonus allocation for 2011.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Orton could jeopardize his shot at free agency in 2012.

As best we currently understand the rules, the Chiefs would be able to send Orton a five-day letter, if he doesn’t show. And if within five days after getting the letter he still doesn’t arrive, the Chiefs can put him on the reserve/left squad list, which would shut Orton down for the rest of the year.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-23-2011 03:03 PM
adbrandtAndrew Brandt

Have been informed that Kyle Orton has been claimed. No notification of team yet.

Carlota69 11-23-2011 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas (Post 8136073)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...l_League_Draft

The Chiefs are not going to get much for a player who plays 6 games. Maybe if he gets a monster contract next season. But who's going to give KO a monster contract?
Fair enough.

The Franchise 11-23-2011 03:05 PM
This is about to get interesting for Kyle Orton. ROFL


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