Awesome! I'm talking about straight up liquid only diet. No solids at all. I met a gal who has lost 109lbs since last October with zero exercise at all (physical condition prevents it) and I figure getting back into shape on top of it, I could absolutely kill what I did before.

What do you think?

I watched a movie once, called "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead". It's about that exact diet and the stories were pretty amazing.

You are missing out on the most beneficial part of a vegetable when you juice it. The fiber. Adjust your diet so that you are consuming foods that are much lower in calorie density and hit the gym.

Not a misunderstanding. That is the only kind of juice one would think was being referred to in a thread of this type.

That gal I was talking about has breast cancer. No chemo, no radiation and she is doing something called "The Gerson Miracle". She swears her cancerous tumors are coming out of her skin, draining, drying up, and falling off. She says her doctor did blood work and says she doesn't have the blood work of a cancer patient anymore. I need to get off of here and do some homework.

In any case, I appreciate you Brock. Sincerely. You've always been positive throughout my struggles with this shit, and I've never felt you judged me for any of it. I don't know you personally, but I know enough about you to know you're a good dude. And it means a lot to me. This place is really the only support system I have, everything else I do on my own, and alone. I'm good with it, but this place has been a God send for me just because it's ****ing hard sometimes and everyone needs some one to help them out and prod them along during the journey. So, thank you.

I agree. that's why I said I felt like an idiot. I should've known better.

That isn't necessarily true. If you drink a blended up bunch of vegetables, the fiber is still in it. I'm not sure what particular kind of juicer he's talking about, but most of them I've seen just grind up whole vegetables and you consume the whole thing.

That would be totally different. :thumb:

Shit, dude. That really sucks.

THIS!!!!!!

I'll definitely be looking for one of those. I made my own thread. You guys have doing this for years, and it's a hobby for you. I don't want to clutter up your thread with my bullshit, so I'll just drop in from time to time to ask questions if that's alright. I appreciate it fellas.

ROFL. I was going back and catching up on this thread. I pretty much immediately knew what Flopnuts was talking about, but it was pretty hilarious to see the subsequent posts misunderstanding him.

Flop: count and restrict those calories baby, get off your ass, and get to work!

OK, I take back my "THIS!!!!!" post. I was thinking of the fruit juice cleanses that a lot of people at my gym are trying. Yeah, I add kale to my protein shakes sometimes.

I would do way more cardio than weights to start with. Do your research on the lifts you want to do. Start without weight and make godDAMN sure you get the form right. make sure it burns where it is supposed to burn. Don't add any weight until you are absolutely sure your form is correct. Particularly with squat.

Need some advice. I recently switched my routine to the starting strength program (I'm on session 8), so far I love it except for one thing. Dead-lifts - I don't have anything against the exercise except that I must be doing it wrong.

The last two sessions with dead-lifts I've made it all the way to the 2nd to the last rep then I lose my form (focus) and hurt my lower back. It happened last Thursday and just again tonight, I probably should have waited a couple more days I just hate missing workouts. Anyone have any tips or advice on how to keep this from happening? What should I do in the meantime as I'm likely out of commission for a week or so?