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chiefzilla1501 06-02-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9726164)
Right. It's all the government's fault you eat processed shit. Take some responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming the government.

Eat whole grains, fruits and veggies instead of processed shit. And exercise. A lot. I've lost 40 lbs. doing just that.

Except that for the most part, to eat healthy, you have to spend a lot of money and often a lot of time (in order to prepare your own meals). For the busy person, especially one who works on a budget, this is not easy. It would be hella easier if there were fast food places or plenty of quick grocery options that weren't somehow tainted with salt and additives. Walk down the grocery aisle and you have to read a gazillion labels just to find something that's healthy for you.

Yeah, people need to take responsibility for their actions, but it shouldn't have to be as difficult as it is to make the right decisions. People don't have the time or patience for that.

splatbass 06-02-2013 10:08 PM

Some medical science for Clayton. Do you think the Mayo Clinic knows about medicine Clay?

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fas...d-food/MY02157

Or how about WebMD?

Further, when you start fasting, your body goes into conservation mode, burning calories more slowly.

Hammock Parties 06-02-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9726237)
Medical science says otherwise. Your body protects itself when you don't eat for a long period of time by storing fat. Then when you do eat your body craves carbs to fill the void and you eat to much. Not a good way to lose weight.

You are wrong.

I have never had better fat loss results than when I am fasting.

Hammock Parties 06-02-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9726232)
JFC that's a lot of weight. Congrats.

Did you just cut out sugar and junk food?

I just started eating better and working out. I used to drink a shit ton of calories, now I almost never drink any calories at all.

Simply Red 06-02-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9726249)
Except that for the most part, to eat healthy, you have to spend a lot of money and often a lot of time (in order to prepare your own meals). For the busy person, especially one who works on a budget, this is not easy. It would be hella easier if there were fast food places or plenty of quick grocery options that weren't somehow tainted with salt and additives. Walk down the grocery aisle and you have to read a gazillion labels just to find something that's healthy for you.

Yeah, people need to take responsibility for their actions, but it shouldn't have to be as difficult as it is to make the right decisions. People don't have the time or patience for that.

the true All Stars like myself or Claythan - will find time and a way to make it happen - I see what you're saying and I agree w/ part of it - it is expensive and time consuming - but it's also very doable, if you discipline yourself. Also - eating correctly will become a hobby.

splatbass 06-02-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9726249)
Except that for the most part, to eat healthy, you have to spend a lot of money and often a lot of time (in order to prepare your own meals). For the busy person, especially one who works on a budget, this is not easy. It would be hella easier if there were fast food places or plenty of quick grocery options that weren't somehow tainted with salt and additives. Walk down the grocery aisle and you have to read a gazillion labels just to find something that's healthy for you.

Yeah, people need to take responsibility for their actions, but it shouldn't have to be as difficult as it is to make the right decisions. People don't have the time or patience for that.

I eat out a couple of times a week. Not fast food. And I only eat whole grains, and no potatoes (sweet potatoes are ok). It can be hard to find things to eat, but in most restaurants you can.

The bottom line is that if you want to eat healthy you can. Trust me. I live in the highest cost of living state on the country, and fruit and veggie prices are through the roof. I also took a 25% pay cut in January. Times have been tough, but I still manage to buy healthy foods. I've had to cut back on other things, but sacrificing entertainment for health is a good trade off.

Silock 06-02-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9726237)
Medical science says otherwise. Your body protects itself when you don't eat for a long period of time by storing fat. Then when you do eat your body craves carbs to fill the void and you eat to much. Not a good way to lose weight.

First off, you said "but in the short term your body will stop burning fat and start storing it." This is absolutely false. Ketogenic diets (which work -- "medical science" has proven it time and time again) are based upon the principle that your body will switch to FFA for energy during periods of fasting and low/no carbohydrate intake.

It's true that your body will begin to slow its metabolism in response to decreased caloric intake, but this is a function of the degree to which you are in a caloric deficit and not specific to fasting.

It may not be YOUR preferred way to lose weight, as not everyone has the willpower to not only fast, but to not crash out (which is why refeed/recycle days on a fast/ketogenic diet are so important, not only physiologically, but mentally, as well). But to call it "not a good way to lose weight" is blatantly false, and quite frankly, ignorant of current dietary research, theory and practice.

Simply Red 06-02-2013 10:14 PM

and again chiefzilla - I'm pooping like I own a country.

splatbass 06-02-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9726255)
You are wrong.

I have never had better fat loss results than when I am fasting.

See my previous post citing the Mayo Clinic and Web MD, smart guy. I'm sure you know more than the top medical experts. :doh!:

splatbass 06-02-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9726272)
First off, you said "but in the short term your body will stop burning fat and start storing it." This is absolutely false. Ketogenic diets (which work -- "medical science" has proven it time and time again) are based upon the principle that your body will switch to FFA for energy during periods of fasting and low/no carbohydrate intake.

It's true that your body will begin to slow its metabolism in response to decreased caloric intake, but this is a function of the degree to which you are in a caloric deficit and not specific to fasting.

It may not be YOUR preferred way to lose weight, as not everyone has the willpower to not only fast, but to not crash out (which is why refeed/recycle days on a fast/ketogenic diet are so important, not only physiologically, but mentally, as well). But to call it "not a good way to lose weight" is blatantly false, and quite frankly, ignorant of current dietary research, theory and practice.

As I previously posted, the Mayo Clinic and Web MD disagree with you. You are pushing snake oil. A fad diet.

Doctors VS. dietary "research" by people not qualified. Easy choice.

Sassy Squatch 06-02-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9726255)
You are wrong.

I have never had better fat loss results than when I am fasting.

What periods of time were you fasting?

Simply Red 06-02-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9726283)
What periods of time were you fasting?

He went three weeks - he almost blew away.

splatbass 06-02-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9726289)
He went three weeks - he almost blew away.

Who did he almost blow.....

away.

chiefzilla1501 06-02-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9726271)
I eat out a couple of times a week. Not fast food. And I only eat whole grains, and no potatoes (sweet potatoes are ok). It can be hard to find things to eat, but in most restaurants you can.

The bottom line is that if you want to eat healthy you can. Trust me. I live in the highest cost of living state on the country, and fruit and veggie prices are through the roof. I also took a 25% pay cut in January. Times have been tough, but I still manage to buy healthy foods. I've had to cut back on other things, but sacrificing entertainment for health is a good trade off.

I eat healthy. But it's mostly because I cook my own meals. And I didn't learn how to shop at a grocery store until 3 years ago, when I followed a plan that only allowed for a certain amount of carbs, protein, dairy, etc.... Only then did I really know what I was doing.

It's not easy for someone who has to choose between a million fad diets (many of which are complete scams), who doesn't realize that there are better ways to work out than running all the time, and who doesn't have time to read every label/cook their own meals.

chiefzilla1501 06-02-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9726273)
and again chiefzilla - I'm pooping like I own a country.

Hopefully not Mexico or India


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