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Skyy God 03-05-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16838252)
Every player has a list like that, that's played as long as DHop has. Mahomes has a list as well. But like DHop, few, like two, kept them off the field, so what?

This isn't about like. I don't like Josh Allen (in particular) or Joe Burrow, but I'm not stupid. I can see that they're both elite level QBs. I can discern that if Mahomes didn't exist, and I had either of those two QBs or could acquire either, I'd be happy to have them playing for my team.

The fact remains that if DHop walked into the building, he'd be the best WR on the room, not just in 2023, but the best WR that Mahomes has ever played with, by a large margin.

KC scored TDs at an historic rate when Kelce, Hill and Watkins were all healthy and on the field at the same time. And DHop is significantly better than Watkins at his peak. It was so efficient, that our PK and punter barely saw the field, turning in nearly record lows in FGA and punts. And I think, I'd have to go back and do the math to be sure, but I think KC was scoring at over/nearly a 70% clip when they were all healthy.

And as I've said, none of us really know what Dhop wants, or even what ARI really will accept right this second. It's speculation. Just as I don't really know if DHop wants to come to KC. But if Veach signs him, I'm sure it will be fine, because he wouldn't eff the team's future.

Now, personally (dropping the DA thing for a second), I don't think we want to give up a 2nd for DHop. Iirc, we only have like 9 picks this year? So that might not be the best idea. But a 3rd and almost anything? Sure, why the hell not.

A busted ass Nuk is better than peak Hill??

GTFO with this nonsense.

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16838312)
Does it matter who it is? Don't worry though. He has played more games than DHop. You said that every player has a list like DHop.

I've clearly shown that not every player has a injury history per your own parameters.

LMAO one dude. Okay, well at least I know how you did in prob/stats in HS.

Abba-Dabba 03-05-2023 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16838320)
LMAO one dude. Okay, well at least I know how you did in prob/stats in HS.

You said every player. Clearly not every player is the way you say they are. Do you want me to go through all 1500 NFL players to satisfy your needs?

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16838319)
A busted ass Nuk is better than peak Hill??

GTFO with this nonsense.

Lol, for God's sake, are you trolling or do you just not understand how to evaluate/compare two players? When you look at the complete performance/attribute envelope, Hill is significantly better than DHop in two categories: acceleration/speed and let's call it agility. Everywhere else DHop is the better WR. That's not a knock on Hill, it's just reality. Take those tipped balls everyone was so pissed about in 2021. 'Nuk' catches all of those, because he's a bigger player and has better hands.

go down the list of characteristics, DHop scores higher than Hill, outside of those first two dealing with speed and quickness. That's not even opinion; that's demonstrable facts.

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16838325)
You said every player. Clearly not every player is the way you say they are. Do you want me to go through all 1500 NFL players to satisfy your needs?

Please do. I'll wait.:thumb:

Abba-Dabba 03-05-2023 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16838331)
Please do. I'll wait.:thumb:

Done. Nope, not all have a injury history like DHop. Some more, some less. Happy?

TwistedChief 03-05-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16838284)
The only cock sucker on this board I hate more than you is him. Congrats on that. Hope you both drown in anti-freeze while sucking each other off.

This is exactly the type of response I'd expect from a science-denying rape apologist.

Your imaginary Australian friends would be ashamed if they knew the depths of your depravity.

(P.S. - I am entirely indifferent to your entire existence.)

Skyy God 03-05-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16838330)
Lol, for God's sake, are you trolling or do you just not understand how to evaluate/compare two players? When you look at the complete performance/attribute envelope, Hill is significantly better than DHop in two categories: acceleration/speed and let's call it agility. Everywhere else DHop is the better WR. That's not a knock on Hill, it's just reality. Take those tipped balls everyone was so pissed about in 2021. 'Nuk' catches all of those, because he's a bigger player and has better hands.

go down the list of characteristics, DHop scores higher than Hill, outside of those first two dealing with speed and quickness. That's not even opinion; that's demonstrable facts.

Hill averages 1,200 yards, 13.9 per, and 9 TDs. Not counting his return game contributions.

All of Nuk’s numbers are worse. And he was the #1, high volume option on some trash teams.

Christ you’re dumb.

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16838340)
Hill averages 1,200 yards, 13.9 per, and 9 TDs. Not counting his return game contributions.

All of Nuk’s numbers are worse. And he was the #1, high volume option on some trash teams.

Christ you’re dumb.

Those are results, not traits/characteristics. I can agree that Hill has better statistics, but that's not what I was talking about. Who's dumb now?

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16838335)
Done. Nope, not all have a injury history like DHop. Some more, some less. Happy?

Oh, so you not just a pedantic troll, you're also reneger. Got it.

Skyy God 03-05-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16838344)
Those are results, not traits/characteristics. I can agree that Hill has better statistics, but that's not what I was talking about. Who's dumb now?

He’s a nearly 31 year old PED user.

Why should I GAF about combine/pro day numbers 11 years ago??

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16838351)
He’s a nearly 31 year old PED user.

Why should I GAF about combine/pro day numbers 11 years ago??

Wtf are you talking about now? When did I bring up combine anything?

Look, who has the bigger catch radius, Hill/DHop?

Who's taller? has bigger hands?

Who's the better route runner? Regularly runs a more extensive tree?

And so on. I mean, despite your best efforts to be an ass, I'm trying to have an actual rational argument here. If you can't handle that, just go find a dumb, emotionally-driven name-calling cat-fight somewhere else. I'm not your guy.

Abba-Dabba 03-05-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16838345)
Oh, so you not just a pedantic troll, you're also reneger. Got it.

There's no need for that.

You're a victim of frequency illusion. I'm okay with you being mad about it.

Megatron96 03-05-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16838362)
There's no need for that.

You're a victim of frequency illusion. I'm okay with you being mad about it.

What is frequency illusion. you make that up?

And the last thing I'm going to get mad about is some hypothetical on the internet, particularly about a player I already know doesn't have a realistic shot at becoming a Chief. As I've already told you multiple times.

In regards to CHop's injury history, well it speaks for itself. he doesn't really have one. Grade 1 injuries are the most minor type, that's just facts. you want to trot them out like they mean anything, but they really don't. That's not opinion, that's medical science.

Subtract those Grade 1s out, and what do you have? Not very much at all.

In other words, you can stop bringing up the injury part of your argument, as it just doesn't hold any water. move on to the next part of your argument.

Titty Meat 03-05-2023 02:26 PM

Kccrow vs Twisted is very random to me. Usually I see crow giving in detailed about the draft so I was surprised to see him going in on someone in this thread. I assumed it was one of the usual suspects but nope it was TwistedChief who's also a pretty laid back poster like crow.


Very ****ing random


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