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Figured you would be recommending a tin foil hat on that.

Why? I wasn't aware of that motor. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it's less than 100 bhp.

I was actually referring to the mans' theories on why we can't have nice things in this country.

Oh. I guess I didn't get that far/ran out of gas.

Cool. Oil down to were it was in January when gas was $2.69 a gallon here. Wonder how long it will take for the price to drop back down

Crude still on a downward trend. Trading right now at $96.45/barrel. Gasoline at $3.76, down $0.15 from one month ago.

You didn’t miss anything. The guys basic information is correct but the conspiratorial conclusions he reaches are idiotic since he doesn’t even realize the engines he’s talking about burn Diesel which has a higher “road tax” than gas.

Not to mention he kept saying THIS administration...I guarantee you this has been going on for a helluva lot longer than 3 years.

I still think though that it would be interesting to see the cost. If all these diesel engines were deployed, regular gas would go down but diesel would go up. Probably still in the same boat...

Absolutely it has.
The EPA has been trying to get rid of Diesels since its inception.

You know it, Diesel actually used to be cheaper than gas, then in the 70’s when the oil embargo hit and gas prices skyrocketed people started switching to Diesel vehicles so the price promptly surpassed that of gasoline and it has never gone back.

Donger in the fetal position sucking his thumb. Oil down $1.98

Probably right around the 24th of ****ing NEVER.

Agreed, we probably will never see gas below the $3 mark ever again.

Yep, the one who sucks the peniss have figured out that they can get away with it.

4 yrs ago we thought we'd never see it below $2 ever again...

They have us by the short and curlys, when we think 2.99 is cheap gas. :cuss:

I said this same thing in the summer/fall of 2008 and later that year it dipped to around $1.40 a gallon. 2008 was the strangest year ever.

That was fun watching oil/gas in a freefall.

It wasn't fun losing my job that following March, though. :)

$93.22/barrel. Gasoline at $3.72.

Surprised it keeps dropping with Memorial Day coming up.

A couple of weeks ago:

Today:


Yet our gas prices went up 6 cents the other day, to $4.19.

Bastards. :mad:

Same here.

That sucks. Still going down here in Kansas. (knock on wood)

Local/regional variances aren't uncommon. The overall average trend is decline, obviously.

I know. However, living in an isolated region gives the local gas stations a chance to massively screw us so I like to bitch about it.

So why is gas a dollar a gallon higher then it was when oil was at the same level early this year?

Demand actually increased significantly last week (5%) but we're still down almost 4% from a year ago. People are simply not driving as much and/or are driving more fuel-efficient vehicles. Cushing is virtually awash with crude, too.

It isn't a dollar higher.

LOL

What is better?

Maybe Donger can explain something to me. This is a map of the NE corner of Washington. The nearest big city to us is Spokane (blue arrow).

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The lower prices right now in Spokane are around $3.85. I live in the Colville valley (pink arrow). Our prices are 4.19 (every station - all 8 - is exactly the same), so 34 cents higher.

Republic (green arrow) is a little town about 45 miles NW of Colville. You have to go over a mountain pass and wind around the mountains to get there. When I checked last week, they were 4.06, or 21 cents higher than Spokane. How does that happen without shenanigans going on in Colville?

$2.93/ 104.99 on December 22, 2011 compared to the figure you gave of $3.72/93.22. 79 cent difference on oil that is $10 per barrel lower

On December 22, 2011 crude was $99.42 and gasoline was $3.20.

You are asking why prices tend to be higher out in the boonies compared to major metro areas?

Kansas City area, although I can't tell you why the barrel of oil price is different. KC usually has some of the lowest priced gas in the country

No, I'm asking why a town even further out in the boonies (but not in the same area) is 15 ****ing cents a gallon cheaper than here.

I'm not sure where you are getting your data but the price right now is the same in both towns: $4.19

Um - physically going there. Where are you getting your data? It sounds like they are just lumping the whole area together. Republic consistently runs .10 -.15 per gallon cheaper than Colvillewhen I'm there.

Sorry, I looked at the wrong town. Oroville instead of Republic. Gas in Republic is $4.14 right now.

Is there something about distribution that could explain why a dinky town in the middle of nowhere has cheaper gas than a different rural town that's on a major by-way? There isn't really an easy way to get to Republic, unless the fuel is coming in by train or something.

I doubt it's a distribution thing. Don't forget that retailers can and do set their owns prices (for the most part). The retailers in Republic might set their prices lower respective of each other than compared to the other town. If one station in Republic suddenly sets their price five or ten cents higher than the other stations, people will go to the other stations.

5 years later and I'm not wading through all of the post, but I'll just say that the original article has it all wrong because gas would have to be over $5 for a Prius fill-up to cost $50 dollars.

I've yet to put even $40 in my Prius even after driving 500+ miles on a tank of gas. :p

Crude now trading below $90.00 at $89.75.

How much were we paying at the pump the last time it was this low? I'm going to guess it wasn't close to 3.29/gallon.

About $3.45

why am i paying almost 4.50?

Who the **** is paying 3.29? Still 3.59 - 3.65 here.

Because you like Matt Cassel.

I paid $3.32 at a QT this morning.

To pay for all the "medicinal" weed you Californians burn through.

Where are you?

Central IL. :mad:

****ing hate this corrupt piece of shit state.

Ah, there you have it.

Still 3.75 in Ohio, Where I live.

I'm currently in Florida, its 3.45.

We're paying $3.29 right now. Lowest it's been since around Thanksgiving, when it was about $2.99. Still too high, IMO.

Paid $3.26 at Hy-Vee on Noland Road on Monday.

There are still places near me where it's over $4 a gallon. Which is just pure thievery at this point.

Still $4.199 here. Pure thievery is right. :shake:

If you are referring to the taxes that are factored in to make it that price, yes, I can see that

I had a friend tell me that gas prices can be affected by the president. He said that's why they always go down during election years. I argued against it because that's what I've been told. Whats the correct answer?

The POTUS (any POTUS) can do very, very little to influence gas prices. The price of gasoline is directly related to the price of crude, and POTUS can do very little to influence that.

Here are just a few examples:

1) Release and sell crude from the SPR. This increases the total amount of crude available (increases supply), which leads to reduced prices. But, only a nickel or so less from your wallet. The SPR has also never been released by any POTUS just to lower pricing, but in reaction to a supply disruption.

2) Along with congress, POTUS could suspend the federal tax on gas, which I believe is $0.18 or so per gallon. I believe this has been done before.

3) Start a war.

So you're quite convinced that the oil companies and station owners aren't just upping their profit margins since they know their customers have no choice but to pay whatever they charge?

Yes, I am quite convinced of that. Chicago has one of the highest taxation rates of gasoline than any other city (and state and local) in the country. That's why your gasoline is always higher than the national average.

3.21 here bitches

Oh, I'm aware of that. However, I find it laughable that you believe nobody else is to blame.

I don't know why you think it's laughable. The math is rather obvious. Illinois drivers pay about $0.30 per gallon more in tax that "normal" states do. And that's just additional tax. You also have a rather exotic fuel blend that is more expensive.

Crude down today, now at $88.34 ($2.42 or 2.67%). Gasoline at $3.64

Seems gas prices are affected by:
Taxes
Regulations - special fuel blends for different seasons
Price of oil
Distribution costs, lack of refining capacity, again regulations
Demand

None of these in any specific order. Would that about sum it up?

3.61 here in the CO

Gas went up overnight at a local station from $3.41 to $3.46. :shrug:

Yes, and profit of course.

http://www.thedieseldriver.com/wp-co...-gallon-of.jpg

Dang, now $87.85. Can't have that...

You're correct, i would much rather it settled in at $10.00 a barrel.

Gasoline prices are also effected by trading, which is the most volatile and the item which most effects prices.

It's been fluctuating wildly up here. I've seen it drop a quarter a gallon and then go up 30 cents a gallon in between fill-ups. No dramatic spikes in the price, and I'm quite sure the Illinois legislature couldn't agree on the color of the ****ing sky in that short of a time period, so I don't think you can blame it on taxes.

You forgot greed.

I prefer the un-emotional approach. Just the facts ma'am.

The fact is greed plays a major role in gas prices since oil is a traded commodity.

True, but I view that as factored into crude pricing (and wholesale gasoline pricing).

I suppose that depends on how you define greed.

Well, if you seek to make a profit, you must be greedy. I guess.