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DJ's left nut 06-10-2010 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 6811550)
Here is what I see happening:

KU, KSU, ISU, Missouri and Baylor keep the Big 12 name and add Utah, BYU, Air Force, Boise State and TCU and then two more out of the group of New Mexico, Colorado State, Tulsa, Memphis, UTEP, UAB and Houston. This is probably the most likely scenario. The addition of Utah, BYU, Air Force, Boise State and TCU probably allows the conference to stay in the BCS.

Here's what I see happening:

None of what you just said. Not one single thing.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-10-2010 10:23 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/10...as-no-big.html

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-10-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6811560)
FYP

Eat yer stew, boy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-10-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6811568)
Here's what I see happening:

None of what you just said. Not one single thing.

ROFL

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6811558)
I don't see how they're lucky. Assuming Texas and its ball hangers are headed to the same conference, everything that sucks about the Big XII will simply follow them.

There is that. But I don't want to go to the MWC.

ChiTown 06-10-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthpellets (Post 6811564)

Perfect match Athletically and Academically?

I agree, CU should be an outstanding addition to the strong PAC 10 baseball tradition........

ROFL

Take em, they are ****ing worthless.

Frazod 06-10-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6811572)
There is that. But I don't want to go to the MWC.

Honestly, I'd rather do that than be ground under the Longhorn boot any longer.

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6811577)
Honestly, I'd rather do that than be ground under the Longhorn boot any longer.

Hopefully in 10 years we just look back and laugh at this. It's crazy right now though.

Saulbadguy 06-10-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6811582)
Hopefully in 10 years we just look back and laugh at this. It's crazy right now though.

Yeah. This pretty much sucks balls right now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-10-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6811590)
Yeah. This pretty much sucks balls right now.

Yep.

kepp 06-10-2010 10:45 AM

via Dave_Matter tweet - "MU Chancellor Brady Deaton just learned about CU to Pac-10, said he immediately called Texas Prez Bill Powers, chairman of B12 board"

kepp 06-10-2010 10:49 AM

KOMUnews tweet-

Curator Judith Haggard just said "nothing has happened yet" she provided no further comment.

Chiefspants 06-10-2010 10:49 AM

Hmm, One thing that's kind of cool in this crisis, is how it has unified the beakers, Murons, and the kitty fans of this board.

But in all seriousness, this chain of events has been insane so far.

ChiTown 06-10-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 6811612)
Hmm, One thing that's kind of cool in this crisis, is how it has unified the beakers, Murons, and the kitty fans of this board.

But in all seriousness, this chain of events has been insane so far.

4321

|Zach| 06-10-2010 10:52 AM

Twitter rocks.

Sure-Oz 06-10-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6811615)
4321

United lol

Pants 06-10-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6811590)
Yeah. This pretty much sucks balls right now.

****ing /sadface

alnorth 06-10-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 6811612)
Hmm, One thing that's kind of cool in this crisis, is how it has unified the beakers, Murons, and the kitty fans of this board.

But in all seriousness, this chain of events has been insane so far.

Not really. If Mizzou gets their Big 10 invite and KU is relegated to the MWC, the Tigers will be first in line to dance and laugh at KU's misfortune.

Likewise, if the Big 10 decides to grab 4 more schools from the east, an SEC invite for KU unexpectedly comes from out of nowhere, and Mizzou is left twisting in the wind, KU fans will laugh at the Tigers for years.

There is no real unification here, only shared misery and hope that they get out.

Frazod 06-10-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6811618)
United lol

:grouphug:

Bugeater 06-10-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6811558)
I don't see how they're lucky. Assuming Texas and its ball hangers are headed to the same conference, everything that sucks about the Big XII will simply follow them.

There's NO WAY the Pac 10 allows Texas to be the bullies they were in the Big XII.

chiefsnorth 06-10-2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6811621)
Not really. If Mizzou gets their Big 10 invite and KU is relegated to the MWC, the Tigers will be first in line to dance and laugh at KU's misfortune.

Likewise, if the Big 10 decides to grab 4 more schools from the east, an SEC invite for KU unexpectedly comes from out of nowhere, and Mizzou is left twisting in the wind, KU fans will laugh at the Tigers for years.

There is no real unification here, only shared misery and hope that they get out.

The SEC wants Kansas.ROFL
mmhmmm... pass that over here

boogblaster 06-10-2010 10:55 AM

did the corn-holers already leave

Reaper16 06-10-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 6811630)
did the corn-holers already leave

Not yet. Not officially.

Chiefspants 06-10-2010 10:57 AM

On second thought, it seems as though everything is business as usual around here. :p

Frazod 06-10-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6811625)
There's NO WAY the Pac 10 allows Texas to be the bullies they were in the Big XII.

I'll believe that when I see it. I think Texas believes they'll call the shots wherever they go; otherwise they wouldn't be going.

I think it's a dark day for the Pac-Whatever if Texas brings its flunkies and invades. Just like it was a dark day for us when the ruined the Big 8.

alnorth 06-10-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsnorth (Post 6811627)
The SEC wants Kansas.ROFL
mmhmmm... pass that over here

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6811621)
unexpectedly comes from out of nowhere

I know it's not going to happen. It's a fantasy hypothetical to address this so-called "unity"

Bearcat 06-10-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6811611)
KOMUnews tweet-

Spoke with Curator Judith Haggard just said "nothing has happened yet" she provided no further comment.

Jeez, so straight forward.... Better: Just spoke with Curator Judith Haggard, and while she has nothing new to report, all signs still point to maybe possibly announcing a move to the Big 10 tomorrow.

sedated 06-10-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6811625)
There's NO WAY the Pac 10 allows Texas to be the bullies they were in the Big XII.

which is why I'm sleptical it will happen. Texas has too sweet a deal here.

Say goodbye to Nebreaska and Meth-U, invite 2 (TCU, Memphis, Boise St, Utah, BYU, etc), move OU and OSU to the north (giving the conference the OU/TX matchup in the championship game), and start planning for a long-term expansion into a 16-team conference.

kepp 06-10-2010 11:01 AM

Dave_Matter -
chancellor on MU's & Big 12's future: "Anything could happen."

Frazod 06-10-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6811641)
Dave_Matter -
chancellor on MU's & Big 12's future: "Anything could happen."

Really? I'm sleptical.

Bambi 06-10-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6811641)
Dave_Matter -
chancellor on MU's & Big 12's future: "Anything could happen."

Groundbreaking

kepp 06-10-2010 11:08 AM

Dave_Matter-
#Mizzou is circulating an email to campus officials reminding them to tell media: "We are proud members of Big 12 Conference."

KOMUnews-
Curator Judith Haggard says "There's been no offer extended."

Bugeater 06-10-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6811635)
I'll believe that when I see it. I think Texas believes they'll call the shots wherever they go; otherwise they wouldn't be going.

I think it's a dark day for the Pac-Whatever if Texas brings its flunkies and invades. Just like it was a dark day for us when the ruined the Big 8.

They owned the Big XII because they owned the majority the TV markets and had better resources than rest of the schools, I don't see them having those advantages over the Pac 10, or more specifically the California schools. Although USC is going to be hurting for a few years, but they won't stay down.

But you're right about their arrogance, and that's why I still don't believe it's going to happen. I honestly think they'd rather try to make a go with the Big XII minus CU, NU, and MU so they can continue to be the big fish.

DaKCMan AP 06-10-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 6811478)
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5271438
Source: Colorado moving to Pac-10

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<!-- end mod-article-title --> <!-- begin story body --> Colorado is poised to announce as early as Thursday that the school is leaving the Big 12 to join the Pac-10.

Colorado's conference move was first reported by The Sporting News.

Colorado's impending move might spell the end for the Big 12 conference. Nebraska is also poised to announce its move from the conference to the Big Ten.

A Big 12 football coach, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach on Wednesday night that if Nebraska left the Big 12 the conference would dissolve, according to his athletics director and university president. The coach said Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado would join the Pac-10, leaving Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Iowa State behind.

"Nebraska is the key," the coach said.

The coach said the Pac-10 favored Colorado over Baylor because of the Buffaloes' presence in the Denver TV market.

Another Big 12 coach said Wednesday night that an anticipated Nebraska announcement of moving toward the Big Ten Thursday would indeed trigger the death of the Big 12 and a mass migration west.

"If Nebraska leaves," the coach said, "everyone has to look."

The new conference would be split into divisions with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado forming an Eastern Division with Arizona and Arizona State opposite the former Pac-8 (USC, UCLA, Stanford, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) in the Western Division.
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The coach said it's possible the Pac-16 would push for two automatic bids to the BCS, one for each division champion. That potential bonanza could open the possibility of the two division champs from one league playing for the national title, and it would eliminate the need for a conference championship game.

"The Pac-10 doesn't believe in a championship game," the coach said. "And coaches in the Big 12 don't like it anyway."

As stated before:

Translation: We want to get 2 teams from our conference in a Championship game so we don't have to play a team from the SEC and can, therefore, get a guaranteed NC.

Having a 16 team conference with 2 8-team divisions with an auto-bid from each division and NO conference championship game? BS. I don't see the other conferences ever agreeing to that garbage.

Pants 06-10-2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6811657)
They owned the Big XII because they owned the majority the TV markets and had better resources than rest of the schools, I don't see them having those advantages over the Pac 10, or more specifically the California schools. Although USC is going to be hurting for a few years, but they won't stay down.

But you're right about their arrogance, and that's why I still don't believe it's going to happen. I honestly think they'd rather try to make a go with the Big XII minus CU, NU, and MU so they can continue to be the big fish.

Nobody even comes close to Texas in P10 in terms of money. Texas is going to be the dominant school no matter where they go. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

BWillie 06-10-2010 11:14 AM

All that the Big 12 has ever hung on is Texas. If Texas stays, the Big 12 isn't goin' anywhere.

If you make a trade for Nebraska+Colorado for say Cincinnati and Utah. Then that isn't too bad. Obviously that is a dream scenario but I'm just praying Texas wants to stay.

DJ's left nut 06-10-2010 11:15 AM

So when Deaton comes out and says this is the first he's heard of Colorado to the Pac-10, did anyone else have a full-body shiver?

I will attribute mine to the realization that perhaps Deaton and Alden aren't suprisingly brilliant poker players, but in fact predictably incompetent, clueless boobs...as they have been for years now.

Trying to keep brave face.

Failing.

DeezNutz 06-10-2010 11:15 AM

I'm going to be surprised to see Texas go anywhere.

Regarding Deaton, please don't make me relive the images I have from the situation around the Mike Anderson hire.

Bugeater 06-10-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6811662)
Nobody even comes close to Texas in P10 in terms of money. Texas is going to be the dominant school no matter where they go. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Well if that's the case, and the Pac 10 isn't smart enough to learn from the Big 8's mistake, then I'm not going to feel sorry for them at all.

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6811677)
Well if that's the case, and the Pac 10 isn't smart enough to learn from the Big 8's mistake, then I'm not going to feel sorry for them at all.

Goddamn Big 10 fans. Think their shit don't stink. ;)

ChiTown 06-10-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6811671)
I'm going to be surprised to see Texas go anywhere.

Why?

The B12 House is crumbling. Can THEY save it? Yes, but they are just delaying the inevitable. 4 mega conferences are going to happen, and the B12 won't be a part of that. Texas knows this. Hell, we all know it. It's a function of whether they want to do it now, or wait a couple of years. I think it's a done deal, and they are just waiting for the ink to dry before they announce.

kepp 06-10-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6811681)
Goddamn Big 10 fans. Think their shit don't stink. ;)

ROFL:cuss:

Tactical Funky 06-10-2010 11:21 AM

This whole Super Conference thing is leaving me disenfranchised about college athletics. It's all about TV markets and the big bucks now; history, storied rivalries, and geographic and cultural ties are all part of the past.

It's a goddamned shame.

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactical Funky (Post 6811686)
This whole Super Conference thing is leaving me disenfranchised about college athletics. It's all about TV markets and the big bucks now; history, storied rivalries, and geographic and cultural ties are all part of the past.

It's a goddamned shame.

Well.....suck it up. It will go on wether you like it or not.

kepp 06-10-2010 11:22 AM

So the longer this drags out, the clearer & clearer it seems that the Big10 is waiting on Notre Dame. If they join then expansion continues. If they don't, then the Big10 stops at 12 and revisits the issue when ND's TV contract expires.

Bugeater 06-10-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6811681)
Goddamn Big 10 fans. Think their shit don't stink. ;)

Yes, and I would appreciate if you addressed us in the proper manner. It's called the Big Televenwelve now.

Bambi 06-10-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6811668)
All that the Big 12 has ever hung on is Texas. If Texas stays, the Big 12 isn't goin' anywhere.

If you make a trade for Nebraska+Colorado for say Cincinnati and Utah. Then that isn't too bad. Obviously that is a dream scenario but I'm just praying Texas wants to stay.

I'd be fine with that. Or Boise...

Even though Boise is going to be tougher to deal with year in and year out than Nebraska.

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6811693)
Yes, and I would appreciate if you addressed us in the proper manner. It's called the Big Televenwelve now.

Sorry, my bad. :D

Tactical Funky 06-10-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6811691)
Well.....suck it up. It will go on wether you like it or not.

I'm just about ready to say "**** it" and stop rooting for college sports in general until the payers get paid to play because, let's face it, it's all a ****ing money grab and no longer about the schools and tradition and rivalries; the student athlete is dead. Might as well be honest about it once a monopoly of four mega conferences comes to fruition.

Pants 06-10-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6811694)
I'd be fine with that. Or Boise...

Even though Boise is going to be tougher to deal with year in and year out than Nebraska.

oh snap

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6811694)
I'd be fine with that. Or Boise...

Even though Boise is going to be tougher to deal with year in and year out than Nebraska.

:spock:

DeezNutz 06-10-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6811682)
Why?

The B12 House is crumbling. Can THEY save it? Yes, but they are just delaying the inevitable. 4 mega conferences are going to happen, and the B12 won't be a part of that. Texas knows this. Hell, we all know it. It's a function of whether they want to do it now, or wait a couple of years. I think it's a done deal, and they are just waiting for the ink to dry before they announce.

Colorado leaves. Big deal. Nebraska leaves. Definitely a bigger deal, but not irreparable.

Add two schools and we all continue to call Texas our daddy.

Pants 06-10-2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactical Funky (Post 6811699)
I'm just about ready to say "**** it" and stop rooting for college sports in general until the payers get paid to play because, let's face it, it's all a ****ing money grab and no longer about the schools and tradition and rivalries; the student athlete is dead. Might as well be honest about it once a monopoly of four mega conferences comes to fruition.

The world is ending in a year and half anyway. Don't waste that time worrying about things.

DaKCMan AP 06-10-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactical Funky (Post 6811699)
I'm just about ready to say "**** it" and stop rooting for college sports in general until the payers get paid to play because, let's face it, it's all a ****ing money grab and no longer about the schools and tradition and rivalries; the student athlete is dead. Might as well be honest about it once a monopoly of four mega conferences comes to fruition.

Well, bye..

ArrowheadHawk 06-10-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6811703)
The world is ending in a year and half anyway. Don't waste that time worrying about things.

I heard this same shit circa 1998.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-10-2010 11:29 AM

http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/10/oklaho...otball-big-12/

Bugeater 06-10-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6811701)
:spock:

I wasn't even going to dignify that with a response.

DaKCMan AP 06-10-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6811694)
I'd be fine with that. Or Boise...

Even though Boise is going to be tougher to deal with year in and year out than Nebraska.

ROFL

luv 06-10-2010 11:31 AM

I've decided to just plant myself in the corner, watch, and wait.

ChiTown 06-10-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6811702)
Colorado leaves. Big deal. Nebraska leaves. Definitely a bigger deal, but not irreparable.

Add two schools and we all continue to call Texas our daddy.

Orangebloods.com Columnist

The exodus west by half of the Big 12 has started.

Colorado was the first to make it official. The Buffaloes won't be the last.


Colorado is the first to commit to the Pac-10, but the Buffs won't be the last.
"This is an historic moment for the Conference, as the Pac-10 is poised for tremendous growth," Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement. "The University of Colorado is a great fit for the Conference both academically and athletically and we are incredibly excited to welcome Colorado to the Pac-10."

"On behalf of The University of Colorado students, faculty, alumni and fans, we are proud to accept this invitation from the Pac-10 and join the most prestigious academic and athletic conference in the nation," said Philip P. DiStefano, chancellor of CU-Boulder.

"The University of Colorado is a perfect match - academically and athletically - with the Pac-10," said University of Colorado President Bruce D. Benson. "Our achievements and aspirations match those of the universities in the conference and we look forward to a productive relationship."

A formal press conference was scheduled for Friday at Folsom Field in Boulder, Colo.

Sources tell Orangebloods.com, the Pac-16 conference would commence in 2012.


TEXAS, TEXAS A&M MEET

Also on Thursday, Texas and Texas A&M were meeting alone together in the morning, according to sources, before also having a meeting in the afternoon with Texas Tech and Baylor officials.

If Texas and Texas A&M are on the same page in their meeting about going to the Pac-10, then the second meeting - with Texas Tech and Baylor - could be the courtesy notifation to BU officials that the other Texas schools in the Big 12 South are moving on.

Sources close to Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech told Orangebloods.com throughout the last week that if Nebraska moved on to the Big Ten, the Big 12 was dead.

And that's what Texas president Bill Powers and Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds told UT coaches in a meeting Wednesday afternoon.

If Texas and Texas A&M emerge from Thursday's meeting united, there could be announcements almost immediately that Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are heading west.


PAC-16 TO GET 2 BCS BIDS?

In a related development, sources close to the Pac-10/Big 12 merger say the new, 16-team super conference could push for two BCS bids with the Big 12 dissolving and losing theirs.

In that case, you could have a BCS bid for the Western Division winner among USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.

As well as a BCS bid for the Eastern Division winner among Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

That will be met with resistance from the other BCS conferences as they try to expand and could lead to the formula of each division winner in one of the newly formed super conferences receiving a bid into an 8-team playoff.

There will need to be some representation of the non-BCS schools or legal wrangling and government hearings will overwhelm the process.

But as Orangebloods.com laid out over the weekend, there are athletic directors involved in this whole process who see this coming.


DOOR CLOSING ON BAYLOR

Baylor officials were hoping beyond hope that some 11th-hour change would happen to either save the Big 12 or allow them to get on the train out west.

But one Baylor official told Orangebloods.com, "It's probably 90 percent sure the other Texas schools are gone, but we have to hold onto that 10 percent that something could change."

Orangebloods.com was the first to report Wednesday that Baylor, which has strong ties to the Baptist church, was being met with some resistance in the Pac-10, namely Cal-Berkeley, because of its religious affiliation.

Baylor loyalists, in their argument against Colorado being invited, have pointed out that Colorado's academic and athletic performance lately hasn't been anything the Pac-10 should embrace.

In an announcement Wednesday by the NCAA, Colorado was the only school in the BCS to have scholarship reductions in football for poor Academic Progress Rates. And CU was one of two schools in the BCS to have scholarship reductions in basketball.

There's talk that some Pac-10 schools are down on Colorado's academics and overall sports programs, but sources say Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott wants the Denver market.

Denver has never been a college TV market, much less a Colorado Buffaloes TV market. It's all about the Broncos and pro sports.

But the thought is if you pair Colorado in games against Texas, Oklahoma and USC, the Denver market will tune in.


A&M LAST PIECE OF PAC-10 PUZZLE

The only potential stumbling point for the six Big 12 schools to move west if Texas A&M's heart was in it.

The Aggies have been talking to the Southeastern Conference. Gene Stallings, who won a national title as coach at Alabama, is a regent at Texas A&M who has been VERY active in all the talks involving the Aggies and where they could land if the Big 12 fell apart.

Orangebloods.com has been told by sources that Gov. Rick Perry would encourage his alma mater to go where Texas goes to keep harmony in the Texas Legislature.

There is a state-run, multi-billion dollar mineral rights endowment for both Texas and Texas A&M called the Permanent University Fund, which was threatened by lawmakers the last time realignment happened (when the Big 12 was formed) if the two schools split up.

One thing that should be reassuring to Texas A&M is that in a move to the Pac-10 Texas all but loses its chance to start its own TV network.

That was a point of contention for A&M, which has an athletic department $16 million in debt and had to borrow that money from the school's general fund to pay it off.

That became a big rift at A&M between the administration and athletics department and may have contributed to the forced resignation of A&M president Elsa Murano, who wanted the athletic department to be more diligent in paying the loan back.

A&M was not excited about having Texas, with $125 million in revenue and its coffers overflowing, starting a TV network and adding yet another revenue stream that A&M couldn't match.

But with all schools on an equal revenue playing field in the Pac-16 (or whatever we're going to call this league), A&M's worries probably subside.

Jerm 06-10-2010 11:32 AM

@Dave_Matter: Mizzou sends email to MU officials reminding them to tell media: "We are proud members of Big 12."

underEJ 06-10-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6811693)
Yes, and I would appreciate if you addressed us in the proper manner. It's called the Big Televenwelve now.

My Big 10 fan coworker would like it to be the Big Televenwelveteen. Just in case.

Pants 06-10-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 6811716)
@Dave_Matter: Mizzou sends email to MU officials reminding them to tell media: "We are proud members of Big 12."

Nice and everything, except there is no more Big 12.

Tactical Funky 06-10-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6811703)
The world is ending in a year and half anyway. Don't waste that time worrying about things.

If those damn Mayans are wrong, I'm going to be pissed! I love a good armageddon to break up the monotony.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6811704)
Well, bye..

I never said I was done with college athletics, but I'm certainly less interested than I was during the heyday of the Big 8/Big XII. Hell, maybe I'm just feeling nostalgic and upset that 100 year-old rivalries are essentially dead in the water and the conference I support is about to get pilfered leaving many schools twisting in the wind for no real fault of their own.

DaKCMan AP 06-10-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6811715)
PAC-16 TO GET 2 BCS BIDS?

In a related development, sources close to the Pac-10/Big 12 merger say the new, 16-team super conference could push for two BCS bids with the Big 12 dissolving and losing theirs.

In that case, you could have a BCS bid for the Western Division winner among USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.

As well as a BCS bid for the Eastern Division winner among Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State.

That will be met with resistance from the other BCS conferences as they try to expand and could lead to the formula of each division winner in one of the newly formed super conferences receiving a bid into an 8-team playoff.

There will need to be some representation of the non-BCS schools or legal wrangling and government hearings will overwhelm the process.

But as Orangebloods.com laid out over the weekend, there are athletic directors involved in this whole process who see this coming.

What would be better is if there are 4 "super-conferences" then each has a Conference Championship Game, and the winner from each goes into a 4-team, plus-one style format.

It's weak to have all these "super-cons" when they'd really be nothing more than 8 8-team conferences.

BigMeatballDave 06-10-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 6811716)
@Dave_Matter: Mizzou sends email to MU officials reminding them to tell media: "We are proud members of Big 12."

LMAO he sounds like a Nazi propaganda machine...

chiefsnorth 06-10-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactical Funky (Post 6811719)
If those damn Mayans are wrong, I'm going to be pissed! I love a good armageddon to break up the monotony.



I never said I was done with college athletics, but I'm certainly less interested than I was during the heyday of the Big 8/Big XII. Hell, maybe I'm just feeling nostalgic and upset that 100 year-old rivalries are essentially dead in the water and the conference I support is about to get pilfered leaving many schools twisting in the wind for no real fault of their own.

So MU and KU keep playing in football every year. Rivalry still on.

luv 06-10-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsnorth (Post 6811726)
So MU and KU keep playing in football every year. Rivalry still on.

If it's a non con game, it will seem watered down.

Los Pollos Hermanos 06-10-2010 11:42 AM

A source in the OK State athletic department tells TMZ Sports the move is a "done deal." The Pac-10 just made it official that Colorado is also jumping off the Big 12 ship.

We're told it's "just a matter of time" before the OK State announcement is also made. It's been rumored that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M will also join the new super conference. Nebraska, it's widely believed, will go to the Big 10.

As for why this is all going down -- our source says "everyone wants a playoff system ... and this is the first step toward doing it."

http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/10/oklaho...otball-big-12/

siberian khatru 06-10-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6811718)
Nice and everything, except there is no more Big 12.

"We are proud members of the Big 12 ... er, Big 11 ... er 10 ... 9 ... 8 ..."

Basileus777 06-10-2010 11:43 AM

TMZ outing this? Bizarro world.

chiefsnorth 06-10-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6811730)
If it's a non con game, it will seem watered down.

Head to head is what rivalries are.

KU will be fine and will still schedule those games. Don't worry.

DaKCMan AP 06-10-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6811730)
If it's a non con game, it will seem watered down.

BS. Many schools biggest rivals aren't in the same conference.

Sure-Oz 06-10-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6811746)
BS. Many schools biggest rivals aren't in the same conference.

This

vailpass 06-10-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6811711)
ROFL

Dude sure knows his football doesn't he?

Sure-Oz 06-10-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6811735)
TMZ outing this? Bizarro world.

it's TMZ SPORTSSSsss

healthpellets 06-10-2010 11:55 AM

well thanks, dan.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...ases-statement

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Thursday, June 10, 2010
Commissioner Beebe releases statement
By David Ubben
ESPN.com

After one of its members officiallly left for the Pac-10, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe released a statement on Thursday afternoon.

The Big 12 Conference has been informed that the University of Colorado has accepted an invitation to join the Pacific-10 Conference. I continue to work through the process that was agreed upon last week by our Board of Directors to address membership issues, and are working tirelessly towards the long-term viability of the Big 12.


Beebe's come under heavy criticism throughout the realignment process for making the conference appear reactive rather than proactive, among other things. This statement won't help that. But Beebe has maintained all along that the conference preferred to remain at 12 teams, rather than expand like the Big Ten or Pac-10.

He maintains he's done all he can do to save the conference, at least in its current form. He probably has. But as of this morning, he's officially failed.

Jerm 06-10-2010 11:56 AM

LACES OUT DAN!!!!

Mr. Laz 06-10-2010 11:58 AM

i see now that MU fans are starting to think they are going to the Big 10 again that the "MU arrogant jackass" monster is showing again.

luv 06-10-2010 12:00 PM

Did I just read something somewhere about OSU to PAC-10?


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