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Kiimo 12-10-2018 05:55 PM

That chubby Kentucky trash is guilty

notorious 12-10-2018 06:22 PM

Omaha is Kiimo?


Kiimo 12-10-2018 06:24 PM

haha I'm not but careful with that filter bypass!

threebag 12-10-2018 06:35 PM

When I worked at IGA during high school it was a **** fest. Those milfs always cheated on their husbands. Best job I ever had (for the perks).

Valiant 12-10-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13950433)
She literally admitted to it.

:hmmm:

Rain Man 12-10-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13950536)
When I worked at IGA during high school it was a **** fest. Those milfs always cheated on their husbands. Best job I ever had (for the perks).

Best grocery store pickup line?

"Don't bother doing self check out, because I'm already checking you out."

gblowfish 12-10-2018 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13950709)
Best grocery store pickup line?

"Don't bother doing self check out, because I'm already checking you out."

How bout "My Cucumber....it's bigger...."

Flying High D 12-10-2018 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13950536)
When I worked at IGA during high school it was a **** fest. Those milfs always cheated on their husbands. Best job I ever had (for the perks).

Coworkers, customers or both?

Rain Man 12-10-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13950843)
How bout "My Cucumber....it's bigger...."

Or you could play it cool with, "So...what's a nice girl like you doing near a bar code like this?"

eDave 12-10-2018 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13950872)
Or you could play it cool with, "So...what's a nice girl like you doing near a bar code like this?"

Ooh, that's good.

vailpass 12-10-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13950843)
How bout "My Cucumber....it's bigger...."

I have a husband Dean Wormer at Faber.

gblowfish 12-10-2018 09:07 PM

Or you could drop trou, point at the social sirloin and say "Paper or Plastic??"

gblowfish 12-10-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13950884)
I have a husband Dean Wormer at Faber.

Marian Wormer was choice. Hot stuff in a garter belt!

I also liked her moxie. "You can take your thumb outta my ass any time now, Carmine..."

alanm 12-10-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 13828318)
You're fairly new here in that you don't post much.

So please, please...LOOK AT THE ****ING THREAD TITLE. It says 'Another HOT Teacher...'

I'm not sure why that is so hard for some of you to follow. Nobody wants to see these fat, ugly slobs in this thread.

She's not terrible looking... For 47, or a GILF.

vailpass 12-10-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13950899)
Marian Wormer was choice. Hot stuff in a garter belt!

I also liked her moxie. "You can take your thumb outta my ass any time now, Carmine..."

Yep. Casting in that movie was so good and I don't know shit about movie making.

MatriculatingHank 01-02-2019 09:50 PM

Special-ed teacher arrested for throwing New Year's Eve party and letting kids drink alcohol and smoke pot

https://s3.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/L...5ddf8d78794fc9

A special-education teacher was arrested for throwing a New Year’s Eve party for 40 people, including 14 underage guests who drank alcohol and smoked marijuana.

On Tuesday at 1 a.m., the Mount Washington police were called to the home of Lindsey E. Lewis, 36, a teacher at the Phoenix School of Discovery in Louisville, Ky., after a neighbor claimed that teens had destroyed her property while attending Lewis’s New Year’s Eve party, according to local news site WDRB.

A police representative did not return Yahoo Lifestyle’s request for comment. A police report sent to WDRB said 14 children were at the party. A few of the teens tried to leave when the police entered, and others said they had consumed alcohol and smoked pot. WDRB also reported that the smell of marijuana was obvious in Lewis’s home, cans and bottles of alcohol were present, and Lewis appeared to be under the influence.

According to WDRB, police say Lewis “knowingly hosted a party in which she knew or assisted” with the children getting impaired. She was charged with 14 counts of engaging in an unlawful transaction with a minor.

eDave 01-02-2019 09:56 PM

No sex. Not hot. GTFO.

rabblerouser 01-02-2019 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13730182)
Are you saying that you should be able to give BJs to 14 year old boys?

Is this a serious question?

CrazyPhuD 01-03-2019 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14003866)
No sex. Not hot. GTFO.

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Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank (Post 14003847)
She was charged with 14 counts of engaging in an unlawful transaction with a minor.

I'm not so sure of that...they never said what the 'transaction's were with 14 minors. Maybe it was a gang bang? :D

scho63 01-03-2019 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14003866)
No sex. Not hot. GTFO.

My thoughts exactly! ROFL

rabblerouser 01-03-2019 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 14004048)
I'm not so sure of that...they never said what the 'transaction's were with 14 minors. Maybe it was a gang bang? :D

'Gimme that 14 year old D...I'll give you the HPV.'

MatriculatingHank 01-03-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14003866)
No sex. Not hot. GTFO.


Ok.......

2018 Sex Scandal Teacher Starting Lineup

https://www.barstoolsports.com/bosto...Gl2ZIf7IwrIWZo


https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/w...01/02/SSTa.jpg

threebag 01-03-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14003866)
No sex. Not hot. GTFO.

Bet she cleans up alright

scho63 01-24-2019 09:45 AM

It's been a slow start to 2019. These female teachers need to pick up the pace and get better looking.......:D

https://6abc.com/police-nj-teacher-a...udent/5096788/

Police: NJ teacher arrested for having sex with student


Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.

And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5...vid.jpg?w=1280

Predarat 01-24-2019 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)
It's been a slow start to 2019. These female teachers need to pick up the pace and get better looking.......:D

https://6abc.com/police-nj-teacher-a...udent/5096788/

Police: NJ teacher arrested for having sex with student


Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.

And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5...vid.jpg?w=1280

In New Jersey that is actually a solid 9.

chinaski 01-24-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)
It's been a slow start to 2019. These female teachers need to pick up the pace and get better looking.......:D

https://6abc.com/police-nj-teacher-a...udent/5096788/

Police: NJ teacher arrested for having sex with student


Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.

And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5...vid.jpg?w=1280


Kid was 18, how is this illegal? Unethical maybe, but illegal?

Amnorix 01-24-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 14068938)
Kid was 18, how is this illegal? Unethical maybe, but illegal?


As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

chinaski 01-24-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

Yeah, that's stupid as hell. Thanks for clarifying.

Rain Man 01-24-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.

So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 10:40 AM

Guilty...

cooper barrett 01-24-2019 12:00 PM

If they showed her with makeup I bet the not guilty's would fly off the shelf!

Indian Chief 01-24-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14069061)
From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.

So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that.

I can't speak for the other posters, but you are 100% correct that it should not be accepted for a teacher to sleep with a student. If people want to argue that teachers shouldn't do jail time for sleeping with a student that is of legal age, I'd agree with that. Just take their teaching license. There is a definite power imbalance between teachers and students. Age shouldn't excuse it.

ptlyon 01-24-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)
It's been a slow start to 2019.

Yeah, hoes just ain't what they used to be these days...

stevieray 01-24-2019 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

:rolleyes:

ya, because getting laid by your teacher is really important to getting an education.

...people have lost their minds.

Amnorix 01-24-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14069309)
:rolleyes:

ya, because getting laid by your teacher is really important to getting an education.

...people have lost their minds.


The teacher should absolutely be FIRED. And if you want to revoke her teaching credentials and ban her from teaching ever again, I'm ok with that also.

But to actually be at risk to go to jail over this? When they were both consenting adults? WTF??

gblowfish 01-24-2019 12:26 PM

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Looks like she was a real witch!

Amnorix 01-24-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14069061)
From an ethical standpoint I can see it. You don't want someone in a position of power forcing a student to do something to get a grade. But one could argue that the same power differential exists in the workplace, and I think that's a civil issue and not a criminal issue.

That unequal power relationship can occur in many contexts, and if you're holding grades over someone's head, then it becomes potentially nonconsensual, and therefore rape.

If you interview the student and they're like "oh, no, he/she was totally hot and I was completely down for it. Hell I approached the teacher!" and they're still at risk for jail? I don't see any logic at all behind that.

Legal age by definition means eligible to consent to sex. So the crime is what, exactly, here?

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So is your 'stupid' statement aimed at the fact that it's a criminal thing for teachers instead of civil? Or do you think it shouldn't even be a civil thing?
Yes, criminal sanctions. If you want to fire her, that makes perfect sense. It's an inappropriate relationship. If you want to revoke her teaching credentials so she doesn't teach elsewhere, no problem.

JAIL?! Permanent criminal record? Why? That makes no sense at all to me. How

Quote:

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess I'm saying that I think it's a good idea to have some recourse against people abusing power in this way. I just don't really know the best way to do that.
I wouldn't have it include any "civil" remedy either by the student against the teacher, if it was consensual. Where's the logic in that.

Again, the problem is that it's inappropriate for a teacher to have such a relationship with a student due to the power imbalance, but the punishment seems seriously disproportionate to the event if the teacher is threatened with jail.

chinaski 01-24-2019 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069344)
That unequal power relationship can occur in many contexts, and if you're holding grades over someone's head, then it becomes potentially nonconsensual, and therefore rape.

If you interview the student and they're like "oh, no, he/she was totally hot and I was completely down for it. Hell I approached the teacher!" and they're still at risk for jail? I don't see any logic at all behind that.

Legal age by definition means eligible to consent to sex. So the crime is what, exactly, here?



Yes, criminal sanctions. If you want to fire her, that makes perfect sense. It's an inappropriate relationship. If you want to revoke her teaching credentials so she doesn't teach elsewhere, no problem.

JAIL?! Permanent criminal record? Why? That makes no sense at all to me. How



I wouldn't have it include any "civil" remedy either by the student against the teacher, if it was consensual. Where's the logic in that.

Again, the problem is that it's inappropriate for a teacher to have such a relationship with a student due to the power imbalance, but the punishment seems seriously disproportionate to the event if the teacher is threatened with jail.

Precisely this.

If it was purely consensual, there is no crime. Now, from an employment standpoint, what she did is unethical and it should warrant termination.

lawrenceRaider 01-24-2019 01:56 PM

GUILTY!


Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14068914)
It's been a slow start to 2019. These female teachers need to pick up the pace and get better looking.......:D

https://6abc.com/police-nj-teacher-a...udent/5096788/

Police: NJ teacher arrested for having sex with student


Friday, January 18, 2019 11:30PM
PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. (WPVI) -- A Pleasantville high school teacher was arrested today on charges of having sex with a student.

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office says 30-year-old Jessica Gaeckle of Galloway Township engaged in sexual relations with an 18-year-old student.

And they say she told the student to destroy evidence upon learning of the investigation.

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5...vid.jpg?w=1280


Bowser 01-24-2019 02:03 PM

Agree with Amnorix.

vailpass 01-24-2019 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069034)
As has come up repeatedly in this thread, in some states it is ILLEGAL for a teacher to have relations with a student, even if he/she is of age. It's ridiculous and absurd, but the law in some places. F'ing stupid.

How is it absurd to have a law against a teacher ****ing their student?
It would be absurd not to have such a law.

vailpass 01-24-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069324)
The teacher should absolutely be FIRED. And if you want to revoke her teaching credentials and ban her from teaching ever again, I'm ok with that also.

But to actually be at risk to go to jail over this? When they were both consenting adults? WTF??

Ah, ok. I think I misunderstood your point earlier.
Agreed. No jail time but no teacher's license anymore either.

Amnorix 01-24-2019 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 14069749)
Ah, ok. I think I misunderstood your point earlier.
Agreed. No jail time but no teacher's license anymore either.


Agreed. And if it's "put out or fail", then that's at least arguably nonconsensual and rape charges could be filed, or a civil complaint could be filed for damages, no question about it. But if truly consensual by both ADULTS then just strip him/her of their teaching credentials, fire them, and be done with it.

BryanBusby 01-24-2019 02:24 PM

I'm ok with teachers going to jail, even if the kid is 18.

It's an abuse of power and a predatory action.

Flying High D 01-24-2019 02:36 PM

Guilty as sin.

Eureka 01-24-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14069798)
Guilty as sin.

Not with makeup and a dress. She looks great with her witch outfit.

vailpass 01-24-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 14069829)
Not with makeup and a dress. She looks great with her witch outfit.

Yip.

Flying High D 01-24-2019 03:10 PM

Not guilty by way of the witch outfit.


CP

Bwana 01-24-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14069064)
Guilty...

No kidding, another shot:

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-...ca-Gaeckle.jpg

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-24-2019 03:24 PM

I really think these laws are dumb. If you are savvy enough to plow your teacher you should receive an award and the teacher granted a pass.

Amnorix 01-24-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14069777)
I'm ok with teachers going to jail, even if the kid is 18.

It's an abuse of power and a predatory action.


College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

tooge 01-24-2019 03:28 PM

Guilty. Having said that, I have no problem with teachers ****ing their students if the student is of age and I'm the student. I wouldn't have told a soul.

vailpass 01-24-2019 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14069913)
I really think these laws are dumb. If you are savvy enough to plow your teacher you should receive an award and the teacher granted a pass.

Now that you put it that way....

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-24-2019 03:33 PM

I'd wear a shirt to school that said " I plowed the teacher. Guess which one"

BleedingRed 01-24-2019 03:34 PM

Guilty

baitism 01-24-2019 04:06 PM

When I student taught, I had lots of students who wanted the bone. I'm not surprised this happens. That being said, jail for a 4, 5 year gap in age is insane.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 14069829)
Not with makeup and a dress. She looks great with her witch outfit.

This is true. Moral to the story is get up and leave before she takes off her makeup.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 14069893)

Wait, I'm rechanging my mind.


Guilty.

TLO 01-24-2019 06:31 PM

GUILTY AS CHARGED

stevieray 01-24-2019 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14069324)

But to actually be at risk to go to jail over this? When they were both consenting adults? WTF??

Absolutlely.

It has no place in this setting.

Amnorix 01-24-2019 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14070561)
Absolutlely.

It has no place in this setting.


Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

cooper barrett 01-24-2019 08:42 PM

Doable


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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14069333)
Looks like she was a real witch!


otherstar 01-24-2019 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14070683)
Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

Not jail, but many colleges and universities have rules against such things because of the ethics involved. At the college were I work, it's forbidden for faculty or staff to be romantically involved with students. I don't think there would be consequences for the student, but it could cost the employee their job.

Indian Chief 01-24-2019 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14070683)
Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

This is hyperbolic. There is no madness. High school students are anywhere from 14-18, meaning the vast majority are under 18. Hell, there are a good number of graduating seniors that are under 18. You don't make a rule for 90% of the institution and a weird, unneeded exception for 10%. Here's the real issue. There is NO REASON a high school teacher should be, or needs to be, having sex with a student. None.

The situations in your other examples are completely unethical. They are certainly not illegal. If an educational institution has a regulation on the books making it a violation, then that's another layer. If nothing else, prohibiting teachers from sleeping with students (at all levels) removes the appearance of impropriety. There is no sleeping with a teacher for a better grade, or any other advantage. It's a similar reason to why many companies either frown upon or outright prohibit dating a subordinate.

displacedinMN 01-24-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by otherstar (Post 14070779)
Not jail, but many colleges and universities have rules against such things because of the ethics involved. At the college were I work, it's forbidden for faculty or staff to be romantically involved with students. I don't think there would be consequences for the student, but it could cost the employee their job.

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Great Expectations 01-24-2019 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14070683)
Ok. Same questions for you then:

College prof and 22 year old student? Jail?

Post-grad 25 year old MBA student and prof? Jail?

Where does the madness end?

Jail time when it is in highschool, lose your job when it is college. In college it is a power position similar to Moonves. Completely unethical and you should lose your job, but not go to jail. Doing that with a highschool student should constitute jail time.

El Lobo Gordo 01-24-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 14070866)
Jail time when it is in highschool, lose your job when it is college. In college it is a power position similar to Moonves. Completely unethical and you should lose your job, but not go to jail. Doing that with a highschool student should constitute jail time.

Do you think it is jail time because the high school student is incapable of consent?

Great Expectations 01-25-2019 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo (Post 14070881)
Do you think it is jail time because the high school student is incapable of consent?

Due to maturity level and there should be a cutoff at some level. That one makes the most sense.

Amnorix 01-25-2019 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Chief (Post 14070787)
This is hyperbolic. There is no madness. High school students are anywhere from 14-18, meaning the vast majority are under 18. Hell, there are a good number of graduating seniors that are under 18. You don't make a rule for 90% of the institution and a weird, unneeded exception for 10%. Here's the real issue. There is NO REASON a high school teacher should be, or needs to be, having sex with a student. None.

It's very simple -- each state has an age for consent. That age -- whatever it is in that state, determines whether a person is deemed by the law to be an adult and be able to consent to sexual relations.

Whether that person is a student or not shouldn't suddenly render them incapable of legally consenting, and shouldn't render their sexual partner subject to criminal penalties.

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The situations in your other examples are completely unethical. They are certainly not illegal.
Agreed. AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR A TEACHER OF A STUDENT WHO IS OF LEGAL AGE!

Quote:

If an educational institution has a regulation on the books making it a violation, then that's another layer. If nothing else, prohibiting teachers from sleeping with students (at all levels) removes the appearance of impropriety. There is no sleeping with a teacher for a better grade, or any other advantage. It's a similar reason to why many companies either frown upon or outright prohibit dating a subordinate.
Agreed as to all this also.

Amnorix 01-25-2019 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 14070866)
Jail time when it is in highschool, lose your job when it is college. In college it is a power position similar to Moonves. Completely unethical and you should lose your job, but not go to jail. Doing that with a highschool student should constitute jail time.


Just to be 100% clear:

In May, an 18 year old student (a senior in HS) has sex with his high school teacher (let's call her Mary). That fall, he (still 18 but now a freshman in college, and male) then has sex with his college professor (let's call her Jane).

Under your rules, Mary should go to jail, but Jane should not?

Yeah, agree to disagree on that. Mary and Jane should both be fired, and Mary's teaching certifications should be revoked. College profs usually don't have such things, but if you can put a permanent black mark on her resume, that's cool too.

But JAIL? That's ridiculous in my mind.

patteeu 01-25-2019 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14071435)
Just to be 100% clear:

In May, an 18 year old student (a senior in HS) has sex with his high school teacher (let's call her Mary). That fall, he (still 18 but now a freshman in college, and male) then has sex with his college professor (let's call her Jane).

Under your rules, Mary should go to jail, but Jane should not?

Yeah, agree to disagree on that. Mary and Jane should both be fired, and Mary's teaching certifications should be revoked. College profs usually don't have such things, but if you can put a permanent black mark on her resume, that's cool too.

But JAIL? That's ridiculous in my mind.

The age of consent bright line is at least as arbitrary as the line between high school and post-secondary school of some kind. Day before age of consent, jail, day after, no jail.

Amnorix 01-25-2019 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 14071474)
The age of consent bright line is at least as arbitrary as the line between high school and post-secondary school of some kind. Day before age of consent, jail, day after, no jail.


Yes, but you already established that bright line for what is age of consent. Now it's: you're old enough to have sex, but if the counterparty is your teacher, then it's illegal. Oh, only public school teacher. Not, like, college teacher. Even if it's a public college? Well, sure. But why?

Cuz that's how it is.

That system makes no sense to me. Has no basis in logic. The power dynamics are no different than many other contexts that are handled either civilly or by workplace rules. It's a random, nonsensical, exception to age of consent laws.

Rain Man 01-25-2019 01:04 PM

I wonder how often some adult with a teenager does a countdown to the 18th birthday and then celebrates by doing, you know, age of consent stuff. Is there a woman somewhere who got boinked at the age of 18 years and 10 seconds? I have to think there is.

gblowfish 01-25-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14072248)
I wonder how often some adult with a teenager does a countdown to the 18th birthday and then celebrates by doing, you know, age of consent stuff. Is there a woman somewhere who got boinked at the age of 18 years and 10 seconds? I have to think there is.

This reminds of an old joke about an 18 year old girl who thinks she's getting a free trip to Florida on her birthday. The punchline is "No Bitch, I said when you turned 18 I was gonna tamper wit'che!"

crayzkirk 01-25-2019 01:15 PM

Reading all of these various opinions indicates to me that our society has a real problem with sex. Really? You are going to throw someone in jail and/or take away their ability to work because they acted on a normal and natural instinctive urge. How much psychological damage is done by making examples out of the kids.

Our society has absolutely no problem showing someone getting their brains blown out however a nipple or a penis is going to scar someone for life. Perhaps if we didn't make everyone think sex and nudity were some sort of horrible thing, we wouldn't have as many problems.

Mecca 01-25-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 14072281)
Reading all of these various opinions indicates to me that our society has a real problem with sex. Really? You are going to throw someone in jail and/or take away their ability to work because they acted on a normal and natural instinctive urge. How much psychological damage is done by making examples out of the kids.

Our society has absolutely no problem showing someone getting their brains blown out however a nipple or a penis is going to scar someone for life. Perhaps if we didn't make everyone think sex and nudity were some sort of horrible thing, we wouldn't have as many problems.

Our society has always had a problem with sex...we are derived from puritans...people so uptight even the British were like you know what get the **** out...

How uptight would that make them...yea you know.

scho63 01-25-2019 02:49 PM

Something doesn't make any logical sense to me: they say girls mature much faster than boys yet the male teachers who have sex with teenage girls get much harsher punishments than females.

Theory says it should be the other way around; young girls are ready for sex and young boys are walking around dumb as a tree stump trying to hump anything they can rub against.

Mecca 01-25-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14072558)
Something doesn't make any logical sense to me: they say girls mature much faster than boys yet the male teachers who have sex with teenage girls get much harsher punishments than females.

Theory says it should be the other way around; young girls are ready for sex and young boys are walking around dumb as a tree stump trying to hump anything they can rub against.

You know why this is too, because men are viewed as crass and vile creature even when they're young and women are viewed as delicate flowers that need protecting even if they may be crass and vile themselves...

El Lobo Gordo 01-25-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 14071410)
Due to maturity level and there should be a cutoff at some level. That one makes the most sense.

I understand your point. The world is a messy complicated place and we can't legislate heaven on earth. At some point you draw a line and hope you've drawn it in the place that does the most good and the least harm.

Why is what you advocated, better than simply using age of consent laws as the cutoff for jail time?

MatriculatingHank 01-31-2019 03:31 PM

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Teacher resigns after allegedly sending nudes to student

A high school teacher has been accused of preying on students after allegedly sending nude pictures to a boy and inviting him to play a sick game.


A young high school teacher in the United States has been charged after allegedly targeting a male student and bombarding him with topless pictures.
Kelsie Schmidt, 24, was working as a math teacher at Beulah High School in North Dakota when she allegedly sent the 17-year-old pupil nude selfies over snapchat and invited him to play a game of “naked hide and seek”.

She allegedly sent the student three or four nude images.
She was arrested on January 23 and charged with felony luring minors by computer or other means.
According to police the student received three or four naked photos from Ms Schmidt in August and September last year, with one showing the teacher from her waist up with her breasts partially covered by her hair.
An affidavit alleged the student told the police officer he could “get the math teacher in trouble for pictures she had sent him”.

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She was in her first year of teaching when the accusations came to light.Source:Facebook
When speaking to the detective, the teacher allegedly admitted to sending the X-rated pictures to the student, The Dickinson Press reported.
Ms Schmidt was in her first year of teaching and was placed on administrative leave before her recent resignation.
Her lawyer, Tom Dickson, described the events as an “unfortunate situation for everyone”.
“Certainly it’s a very serious allegation and we are treating it very seriously,” he said.
Ms Schmidt’s preliminary hearing is set for February 27.


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