Dun dun dun

And it usually starts with a QB

Dun Dun Dun....again

We haven't heard a whole lotta smoke about Joeckel to KC, maybe they've already made the decision.

And so it begins..... Better late than nevar.
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I may actually cry if we take a fatty....
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Any updates for those of us who cannot get to a TV?

My gut tells me not to trust them but my head tells me all signs point to a QB. I'm definitely conflicted but I think these guys are way different than Carl and Scott.

I talk to people online through other outlets other than this one. I have 4 family members who live in KC, and in recent weeks I've spent time with midwesterners at business outings in Dallas and Charlotte.

You must run with a different group of people.

They said Geno has all the tools to be the top pick, but that he may need a year to adjust to the NFL game.

I was like "duh, who doesn't"

That's it? ****ing idiots....

Well, if he's shown that he's the top pick tools wise, he has the combine to show that he has the other capabilities.

If Geno is ranked in the top 10 on their big board i just don't see how the Chiefs don't pick him.

If it's close they have to go QB.

Yep.

Seems every year, from the end of the season to the combine guys get absolutely picked apart, fairly or unfairly. Then the combine hits and things either get worse or swing the other way.

EJ Manuel will likely be the best NFL QB out of this draft. Hoping we can get him in the 3rd or trade back into the 2nd.

Why are fans of other teams allowed to constantly troll the board?

You really think so? He's a great physical prospect, but I've read that he's not terribly smart. That's exactly what has caused so many other "physical talents" to fail at the position in the past. I'd agree with you that he's worth a low-2nd or 3rd round pick due to his sheer potential, but I'd be very surprised to see him develop into a franchise-type QB.

He will go the eagles at 36.

I don't think he's trolling, he might be right, we certainly can't say that he's wrong. There is no way of knowing.

I think Manual may end up being a better QB than we give him credit for.

Thats fine if he thinks that, but I'm guessing you don't know his background around here.


And to do it in the Geno Smith thread? Really?

Carpenter is a know nothing clown. Pretty sure his knowledge of other sports is what qualifies him for his job. Not bright when it comes to football.

I'm guessing by "people I'm talking to", he means "the closest guy in the bleachers I asked, who doesn't know who I am, nor do I know who he is..." The guy is not connected at all.

He needs A LOT of coaching. He's one of the most raw prospects I've seen in a long time.

The vast majority of his game in college was dump offs and runs.

Why are Chief's fans so insecure to where if any outside opinion breaks their circle jerk, they get uncomfortable and hostile?

It's bizarre. I have not seen this with any other fan base, and I also go to Raiders and Eagles board(due to proximity in the draft).


Let me ELBORATE. I think he has the POTENTIAL to. I think right now Geno is the better QB.

He's supposedly an SEC "insider" that's why they hired him.

Why are Jags fans stupid enough to say their team runs a 34/43 LEO?


It's bizzare. It's like saying the Chiefs run a 34 OLB.

Mort talking about Geno on 610 at the combine....

This is a true student of the game

Worker
Good football iq
Little over 6'3"
Great deep ball accuracy

Wants to go first overall...says if they think he can be their QB, they shouldn't care if its the top pick. Just take him

"The chiefs won't be able to trade down"

Thinks 2-3 qbs go in first.

50-50 shot we trade for Foles.

Says either a third rounder or a conditional 4th would be a reasonable asking price

I can. He's wrong.

Thank you.

IMO, Manuel's ceiling is Aaron Brooks and I don't think he'll ever get close to that.

Let me elaborate. What I meant what I think Manuel has the POTENTIAL to be. Geno is obviously better right now.


You're a moron. Many, many, many people refer to it as a 4-3/3-4 LEO defense. Because LEO is not a traditional position in those defenses.

Example;

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...w-does-it-work

Oh Look, the Seahawks BR page calling it a LEO defense.

No John Elway or Dan Marino...but thee are some good quarterbacks.

Nothing about Barkley that wows you. A squeak under 6'2"

Nobody drafts a game manager in the first

Oh thanks. Bleacher report. Cool.


It's the 43 under.

Just a word of advice, never, ever quote Bleacher Report.

Most people see Wilson as a second round QB

Glennon is uncomfortable when the pocket breaks down and that will hurt him.

Shaun renfree from duke is a sleeper...good tape against sec teams...."this kid is cut from the same cloth as Peyton manning"

Amen Mort. A****ingmen

If we trade for Foles.....it better not be for anything higher than a 4th. His play last year didn't increase his value from his draft spot.

Please stop trying to pretend like you follow anything in the NFL outside of the Chiefs. You clearly don't.

I referred to it once as a 3-4/4-3 LEO defense, because you can have a hybrid defense without a LEO. You are just pretending to know what any of this means because that other tool felt the need to point out that LEO is a position, as if that wasn't obvious to everyone on the planet.

Says SF wants to trade Smith, but that KC would rather have Foles of the vets.

Says the trade comp for smith would be a very late third to an early fifth.

They'd ather keep him.

Andy Reid quarterbacks don't need to be a game manager, he needs them to go win ages and that's NOT Alex Smith.

Joeckel measured 6'6"

You quoting bleacher report clearly shows how much you follow the NFL and how little it's respected around the league.


Most defenses have names for certain spots. Lb's etc.


Its fine if you wanna call it that, just don't get all pissy when someone asks why you do.

We're gonna end up with Geno.

Unless I misheard that, he said Joeckel could be the best LT in the NFL.

If they trade for Foles, they will need to protect him....

The chiefs rally do want to keep Bowe....lots of people in eagle think Albert is a guard.

Talking $$$

10/yr for Albert

Bowe 9.5-11 per year

Mort getting the ball rolling. I predict Smith knocks reid and dorseys ****ing brains wild with the interviews. They're coming out of that room ten feet tall and this ****ing deal is.....Done.
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I never quoted Bleacher Report.

I was demonstrating that it's not an uncommon way to refer to this specific type of defense. The LEO is a specific role with a specific task.

Best in the NFL? ROFL

People in eagle?

Everything I posted over the last few minutes were quotes from mort at the combine...not my own thoughts

Autocorrect...I was typing fast on iPad

League is what it should have said.

Did he say that the Chiefs want to keep Albert?

It probably wasn't obvious given the amount of mongoloids on this site and I wasn't being a tool. It's a 4-3 under front and the fact you keep referring to it s a LEO defense is moronic. For ****s sake, it is originally called the Elephant (position) and what Belichick has been running for years with more emphasis on man principle rather than the Tampa 2 out of base fronts. JFC.

he threw for 1700 yards in 6 starts as a rookie behind a terrible offensive line.

He absolutely did increase his stock from a mid third....but the fact remains that he doesn't fit the new coaches system at all.

He said they have a genuine interest in keeping both of them.

I am more than aware of it's origin. And Jaguars fans have been pleading for a month to rename the LEO to Jaeger for our team. Referring to it as a LEO defense makes perfect ****ing sense when you are talking to a fan base who most likely knows little about it.

Obviously Jaguars fans refer to it as LEO because you know, our head coach and DL coach just came from Seattle.

Get your bullshit out of the Geno Smith thread, troll.

Did he say anything about time frame in signing those guys?

Tell your stupid ass circle jerk buddies that. I didn't bring it up.

No.

The fact you referred to me as a tool for bringing light to that is beyond insightful. LMAO.

Additionally, the Jaeger idea is a good sponsorship idea. Dibs.

No, you're a tool for your excessive use of gifs of a young girl.

You didn't bring light to anything. Our fan base has been dissecting the defense for over a month.

they probably would rather keep him anyway but Smith wants out.

dissecting eh? LMAO

Nice.

2.
transitive verb examine in detail: to examine or analyze a person or subject in detail
"dissected the speech"

You're welcome.

My take on Alex Smith...

The 49ers would be stupid to trade him for less than a second rounder or a top 5 pick in the third round. He is worth more than that to them because if Colin Kaepernick gets hurt, they would be ****ed without Smith...and they aren't gonna get a QB as good as him with a pick lower than a second.

Any NFL team would be dumb to trade a 2nd for him.

Dude is fools gold and will wilt if he gets away from Harbaugh.

This argument has never made sense to me.

Are you suggesting that all of the knowledge Smith has gained under Harbaugh, is just going to magically disappear if he leaves him and will no longer know how to play QB?

If a player is developed, he's developed. It's not like the 49ers ran a drastically different offense when Smith was starting, than other teams in the NFL.

Walked over from work toward Lucas Oil Stadium.....in the hallway leading over from the convention center to the stadium I ran into some of the Bears contingency and a few of the more non-descript collegiate players who are here.

Man there are some big boys here in town...I wondered if all the restaurants in town stocked up a little heavier for this.

Harbaugh was a QB and knew Alex Smiths limitations and strengths and how to gameplan with him.

If he goes to NY (which I think he will) he will fall flat on his face.

Watch.

Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassel etc say hi.

Sometimes it's not the QB that got better, it's the fact that a system was put in place to help protect the QB and make him seem more efficient, which is likely the case with Alex Smith.

Once you remove these QB's from their system, they look like shit.

You forgot aj Feeley.

I don't think he goes to NY, so I suppose that's why I disagree. I think there are other destinations with good QB coaches where he could land.

From what I've been told, St. Elmo's is packed nightly with NFL executives.

Reid coming up on NFL Network at Indy.

So no ones teacher/boss has an effect over the quality of work they put out? Once you have produced X amount under a certain set of circumstances, you automatically produce that amount under an entirely different set of circumstances? I am starting to believe you really are just trolling with every post.

If we draft Geno, I am going to go dancing in the streets. This will be the closest to a playoff win I've ever experienced.

Sad, Eh?

You are putting words in my mouth in a bad attempt at making a point.

Alex Smith is not a young kid. He is now a veteran. There is a good chance that something just clicked for him, and he has learned to play in the NFL.

No, there isn't.

He just had his "Girbac" year...

I will feel like we just won a championship. Seriously. KC has been THAT ****ed since forevar.
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I think he's been a good not great quaterback for 4 seasons now.

Did Clowney just become eligible?

Or that he was on by far the most talented team in the league who made him look better than he is.

We know that shit all too well. Cassel was the benefit of it in New England and in KC in 2010.