The entire offensive gameplan was underwhelming.

Yes I get that Kelce being out and on short notice was significant… but opening the season with the first two offensive plays being runs with MEHHHH?

Seriously?

At least we aren't bitching about the refs or fixed games. This loss is all on our own ineptitude.

See Andy this is why you should take my pages during the game!1

What’s really disturbing is Detroit isn’t a great team. And they played extremely average tonight. And we still lost.

That is a major red flag to me.

I'm half joking but I'm half not, the heat is going to be on Matt Nagy real quick if they have too many performances like this. Just sloppy and didn't feel like they were in control for stretches.

Goff can put it on the money if he doesn't have pressure. When special blitz schemes aren't deployed he had all day for the most part.

Oh bullshit they played the game of their lives.

Lots of work to be done.

They made this game the whole focus of their offseason yet could only beat us by a point. While we were missing two important pieces.

One thing that bothers me is if a player is having a bad game why keep throwing him out there give someone else a chance and maybe while that guy is on the bench it lights a fire under his but. Also why wouldn't you have played and ran Pacheco more if he's not 100% move up Perine.

Nah they've probably got a better game in them. They haven't unleashed Gibbs yet, he was clearly electric and they were missing Jameson Williams. Once they get him back they'll have a great 1-2 punch at WR. And their O-line is elite across the board. They're a very dangerous offense.

Toney and Moore absolutely sucked ass and lost us the game tonight. Unreal. When was the last time you can pin a loss solely on shit WR play? It really is incredible how awful they were.

Lots of drops. KT is on the hook for a couple too. One lead to an INT for a TD. Rice had at least one drop, grey and bell too. Lots of drops. Like the SB against TB

Add in the stupid 3rd and one idiot play and you get a loss.

We've seen that third & short reerunation for years now... ever since Mahomes got his kneecap knocked out of place.

That "Belldozer" play needs to be burned. Adding a "twist" to it only meant a greater loss of yardage.

The jet sweep did not work at all tonight.
Nothing Moore or Toney worked tonight...at least not in our favor.

Toney really is the focal point of this loss. His absolute dumpster fire of a game directly led to a TEN POINT swing, at minimum. ****er should be fined his game check for that atrocity.

Moore is just not good. He is the MEH of WRs. Another draft dud.

The math is simple. Oline + Pacheco = First Down.

Probably a more frustrating game than Indy last year. Just a brutal, painful mess that wasted a solid defensive effort

I’d say the Lions are exactly who most thought they were. A decent team that might make the playoffs with an average at best QB. I saw nothing from them to think it was a mistake to believe we would handle them fairly well.

Well we will get them next time, nut.

If you said KC would only score 20 on offense and give 7 to Detroit on a Pick 6, I would have expected Detroit to win by a lot more than 1 point. They had one of the best offenses in the league last year and only scored 14 tonight. They were bailed out by Toney’s butterfinger Pick 6.

I mean Nagy isn’t calling the same Belldozer direct snap that even CEHs blind ass can see coming but EB seemed like the accountability guy even as Reid’s stooge so that’s where I think we can measure Nagy

Yeah I'm not going to make any firm judgements on Nagy after he found out he lost Travis Kelce 48 hours ago.

If we look like this with Kelce then yeah, time to panic.

I'm rioting this weekend now, was originally just going to chill.

Uh, that's kind of his job though. To not let it fall completely to shit when the unfortunate happens.

One bright spot was McDuffie looking like rod woodson out there

Andy's had plenty of turdburgers like this with the Chiefs, especially early in the season, and even in the Mahomes era.

We're at the point where we can think beyond one loss in the context of a season after 2 championships.

I think Andy was making a point. These guys need to get it together. Who goes for 4th and 25?

Are people going to stop with the prince Perrine shit.CEH is going to be here this year.

That seems like a stretch.

Was it Nagy that decided to not use Rice for nearly a whole half? Where was Ross?

Lets face it, we needed this wake up call badly

These young receivers will shine like diamonds next week, no doubt about it

Tony missed all of training camp and they continuously used him in critical situations and he failed

I mean, this logic works both ways.

Was it Nagy's fault Toney decided to sub his hands for bricks today? Toney makes *one* positive play out of his three drive-killing plays today and we win.

I'm just not gonna panic after a loss. Just like I didn't after our 3 one score losses last year.

CEH was way down the list of our problems tonight, and Pacheco wasn't much more effective

There was nothing positive about this and it's week 1 they shouldn't need a damn wake up. Wake up of what?

If Kelce played we win hands down.

I’m not gonna panic about a Mahomes team in week 1 but this was admittedly worse than all of those losses combined. He can do a lot to propel this team to victory but he can’t make these WRs catch open passes. They’ve gotta do at least that much themselves

Hope they look better with Kelce on the field.

Stop with the 3rd and one. It never works.

Nah the Colts loss to a zombie Matt Ryan was just as bad. Lions are likely a playoff team compared to that refried ass Colts team.

I don't think Nagy really matters too much. Growing pains suck and sometimes bad Andy happens. Oh well! Sometimes it happens.

The Lions might be a playoff team but they made a ton of mistakes today. They effectively tried to hand us the game on multiple occasions and our WRs were unwilling to take it.

In my eyes, Andy gets one to two of these inexplicable losses per year.

With the Chiefs, he's never exceeded that total (2018 may have been the only season where we didn't have one like this). But every year, we always seem to have a complete turd like this.

2013 (Colts @ home)
2014 (Titans, @Raiders)
2015 (Bears)
2016 (Bucs, Titans)
2017 (@Giants, @Jets)
2018 (None)
2019 (@Titans)
2020 (Super Bowl, ugh)
2021 (@Titans again)
2022 (@Colts)

You're the one who's been a Chiefs fan for like 7 years right? Just making sure I have the right crank

I’m never kicking a FG on either 4th and short in or around the RZ….not a million years.

Taking the ball out of the hands of the best player in the planet on those 2 crucial plays and a 3rd & 1 in another crucial spot is just something I’ll NEVER understand.

Quit turtling up when the situation calls for the exact opposite.

A man with no hands wakes up every morning and still has no hands. - Old Chinese proverb about shitty Chiefs receivers and wake-up calls

To be fair to Moore…he had a pass thrown behind him, overthrown, and deflected.

That's ALWAYS a problem with him, though. So it's probably more he's not in the proper position, because Mahomes hasn't had this problem with any other pass catcher this consistently.

The wide receivers we’re not catching the ball. They were not catching the ball and then looking for run after the catch. That was a problem.

Or to say they ran before the catch was made

Congrats to the Detroit Lions.:clap:

Came into the reigning Super Bowl Champs backyard and whipped our Chiefs. They deserved to win. They definitely aren't the same old Lions anymore.


And i think that's about all I want to say about that game. At least for now.

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Too many dropped passes by the receivers.
Defense couldn't stop my grandma if they tried, and she's dead.
Refs weren't much help either.

Meh they were handed a 1 point win off of Toney's butterfingers.

A more accurate example of a Super Bowl champ getting whipped during their banner unveiling night was when the Chiefs dismantled the Faketriots in 2017, a.k.a. the Alex Smith MVP Game, also a.k.a. Kareem Hunt's coming out party.

Lions were better and still looked pretty average. Our WRs were truly awful, Pat was off, OL couldn't run block or stop 1 rusher, play calling was turd.

We should improve but if there's one thing I'm swinging back to it's prioritising offense over D. I'm really not fussed about having a balanced team and investing in the defense. Just give Pat all the weapons and protection. That's my overreaction

Oh hell, when I say "whipped 'em" I don't mean "crushed them," or "beat the feathers out of them."

I just meant they beat the Chiefs fair and square. No stupid flag to blame, or super questionable non-flag. They came into Arrowhead on opening night with the entire football-watching universe watching, they battled really hard for 60 minutes and earned a W.

This

After the rather solid D play last night, it'll be interesting to see where the Jones talks go.

You have to trust guys to pull themselves out of the funk. It’s frustrating to watch as fans, but you just can’t ever get too high or low. We see Toney drop a pass that results in a pick-6 and immediately we’re all like “bench him now!” But the coaches can’t do that. Then his confidence is shaken, he’ll spend the next 10 days in his head, and the time you need him most, he’ll have built up even more pressure in his head which is likely to lead to a less-than-ideal outcome.

Mahomes will make bad reads and throw INTs. We always tell him to keep firing to work through the issue.

Few early PFF grades

McDuffie - 73.3 - only guy covering OK by their measure
FAU - 68.8 - second best guy on D - nice start
Tranquil - 68.8
Chenal - 68.4

After that on D it's liquid s*** - which seems unfair on a couple of guys. Nnadi was once again, unplayable bad - 39

For offense:

Rice - 80.7 - this is the upside, our best player from a small sample was the rook.
Mahomes - 80


Good news from that is the rookies immediately looking good, bad is OTs, WRs, and basically everyone else was complete pish.

What did they give Bolton and Danna? I thought those guys had decent games.

It would be hilariously sad if Jones or (especially) his agent thinks it matters at all.

It would be like asking for a raise, taking a week off, then going to the CEO because your backup didn't respond to a few emails while you were gone and asking, what about now?!?

No shit. Both of those guys played really well.

Broken record these days... "PFF is dogshit"

The Lions were #4 in offense last season and only scored 14 points on offense last night, even with 2 of KC’s best defensive players missing. Sure seems like Jones lost leverage. That game confirms Kelce is more important than him IMHO. Travis should be the one refusing to play until they give him Tyreek money.

Oof. Well, that's not ideal, especially considering the timely holding penalty.

Chiefs starting LT Donovan Smith had a game-high 15.6% pressure allowed rate in Week 1 vs Detroit.

The Chiefs former LT, Orlando Brown Jr, never surrendered that high of a pressure rate in a single game in a Chiefs uniform.

This is where context is needed bc I didn't see this at all. Donovan Smith was mostly invisible to me until the pressure where the guy got pushed to the ground and then held on to Mahomes leg as he threw it away. That and the penalty was it.

IMO this goes to something people to don't like to hear: Mahomes creates a lot of his own pressures by holding the ball too long. It's just who he is.

Jared Goff is now 2-0 against Mahomes and gets to go home to this instead of Brittney.

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Props to the Lions, they earned that win. I hope they make the Super Bowl because I want some sweet revenge on that ass.

Bolton - 62.7 - though every individual metric was higher so a PFF WTF really
Danna - 57.9

I agree, I thought they played decently and don't really get those scores, although that made Bolton our 5th highest rated defensive player - they scored us really badly across the board tbh.

One thing that did show up that I thought I saw was our LBs actually were getting beaten over the middle and not covering that well. Including Tranquil, which surprised and slightly disappointed me. But I think we iron that out, and Gay had the lowest score. Not saying this because of this game but I reckon Gay is gone next year. Good athlete, has some stellar games, but still seems to read the game poorly.

And zero rings to show for it.

This is a hard pill to swallow. LMAO

**** off.

PFF scores of 49.7 for Smith and 52.7 for Taylor. I'm going to say what I've said before, people need to pump the brakes on the "best OL we've had with Mahomes". Absolutely possible, but definitely not our best OTs. This ain't Fisher and Schwartz. Taylor is going to pass-block well enough and be poor blocking the run, as he's been his whole career. Smith, who knows. I thought he was a bit better than that totally arbitrary looking PFF score, but also, not THAT good. Which again is what his career has mostly been...OK.

I get people's dislike of OBJ but he was and is a better OT than Smith, against the pass and in the run. Taylor obviously upgrades at RT in pass pro.

They'll get better but we shouldn't expect truly "elite" play from guys that have shown it infrequently.

Brittany is a loyal wife and mother and looks good. I’d prefer her over that whore Goff is with.

Aiden Hutchinson’s dad takes a bath with his underwear on the nonce. Glad won’t have to listen to him praise his son for wiping his own ass again