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Buehler445 11-15-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9122163)
Ok that was a foul but hardly an intentional.....pretty weak call

Eh, he wasn't making a play for the ball. I'm OK with the call. I'd be bitching about the ones Withey got away with down low, if you want to bitch about fouls.

KC_Connection 11-15-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9122087)
If I were Self, the next time Relaford takes a 3 I would bench his ass for a long time. He is 0-9 but keeps taking that shot. Needs to have a message sent to him.

Following that logic, Self should have benched every single player that played in that disgusting first half. Except that's no way to coach a bunch of players that you're going to need in the future. They need to learn to learn to deal with adversity.

Releford can make that shot. He also needs to make that shot if KU's offense is going to be successful. He shouldn't be discouraged from taking open ones.

Mr. Laz 11-15-2012 09:15 PM

missing Manning some

Mr. Laz 11-15-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9122163)
Ok that was a foul but hardly an intentional.....pretty weak call

The called it intentional, not flagrant.


it was clearly an intentional foul because he didn't go for the ball

Mr. Laz 11-15-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9122108)
Jesus. Releford is playing like ballsack.

actually Releford was a key in turning it around for KU .......... on defense.

Self put Releford on Cobb and Travis shut him down. So much so that Self made sure and sub for Relaford at the same time they sub for Cobb to make sure that Cobb didn't start hitting all those 3's again.

Releford's outside shooting is ass though

petegz28 11-15-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9122211)
Following that logic, Self should have benched every single player that played in that disgusting first half. Except that's no way to coach a bunch of players that you're going to need in the future. They need to learn to learn to deal with adversity.

Releford can make that shot. He also needs to make that shot if KU's offense is going to be successful. He shouldn't be discouraged from taking open ones.

I don't mean bench him permanently or even for entire games. Just sit his ass down for a while and make him think about it.

petegz28 11-15-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9122201)
Eh, he wasn't making a play for the ball. I'm OK with the call. I'd be bitching about the ones Withey got away with down low, if you want to bitch about fouls.

Bitching about Withey or KU for that matter getting away with calls is like crying about the Broncos getting away with calls.

I didn't think it was that bad of an officiated game save the clear goal tending they let KU get away with in the 1st half.

Pants 11-15-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9122230)
I don't mean bench him permanently or even for entire games. Just sit his ass down for a while and make him think about it.

I'm pretty sure he has the green light from Self to launch wide open 3's, as he should.

Braincase 11-15-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 9122234)
I'm pretty sure he has the green light from Self to launch wide open 3's, as he should.

He's been in a slump. He'll snap out of it , as all good shooters do.

Ceej 11-15-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 9122318)
He's been in a slump. He'll snap out of it , as all good shooters do.

While I agree TR will snap out of his shooting funk -- he's not really a very good shooter at all.

Mr. Plow 11-16-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9122217)
missing Manning some

Why?

Mr. Laz 11-16-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 9122712)
Why?

seems like the fundamentals of our bigs isn't as sharp. It doesn't mean they won't develop, just that maybe without Manning they aren't developing as quickly.

Saul Good 11-16-2012 09:51 AM

Interesting game. At one point in the second half, UTC led by twelve and hadn't shot a single free throw.

Mr. Plow 11-16-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9122900)
seems like the fundamentals of our bigs isn't as sharp. It doesn't mean they won't develop, just that maybe without Manning they aren't developing as quickly.

Losing Manning will hurt to some degree, but I am assuming you are talking about the freshman. This was only their 2nd "real" game, 4th overall. You can't make that determination so quickly.

As far as Withey goes, he's just in an unfortunate spot. He really needs an athletic scoring big opposite him to be effective on the offensive side of the ball.

Mr. Plow 11-16-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9122950)
Interesting game. At one point in the second half, UTC led by twelve and hadn't shot a single free throw.


Yeah, KU is struggling right now. Just can't get the production out of the bigs that they need, which is putting more pressure on the guards to hit from the outside. KU has always been an inside/out team under Self - right now they are still trying to find themselves.


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