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Red Dawg 10-26-2015 02:27 PM

Brady has never earned anything really. Had it easy on numerous levels. Makes me wonder how good he really is but he is definitely very good but not the best ever. He had it easier than others that are in the conversation not to mention the rule changes make it alot easier for all QB's.

1. Falls ass backwards into starting job with Bledsoe injury.
2. Tuck rule blunder refs screwed up.
3. Bill's mass cheating with video, steeling play calls, play books and god knows what else. So bad Goodell had to destroy the evidence to protect the sport
4. FG kicker bailing him out numerous times in SB. Seahawks pathetic play call bailed him out this year.
5. Weak division. Really Really weak and still is now. No competition in 15 years just like Manning with the Colts.
6. Same HC and system whole career. Never had to change.
7. Never has to carry the team with his arm. Defense has been solid entire career just like his OL.

For the above reasons I think Joe and Elway are better. They had to fight through harder divisions, coaching changes, old school rules as well. QB's could actually get hit when they played.

In short, they can all go to hell. All of their arrogant and blind to all other teams being even in the league fans can go to hell.

Just Passin' By 10-26-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11837624)
Brady has never earned anything really. Had it easy on numerous levels. Makes me wonder how good he really is but he is definitely very good but not the best ever. He had it easier than others that are in the conversation not to mention the rule changes make it alot easier for all QB's.

1. Falls ass backwards into starting job with Bledsoe injury.
2. Tuck rule blunder refs screwed up.
3. Bill's mass cheating with video, steeling play calls, play books and god knows what else. So bad Goodell had to destroy the evidence to protect the sport
4. FG kicker bailing him out numerous times in SB. Seahawks pathetic play call bailed him out this year.
5. Weak division. Really Really weak and still is now. No competition in 15 years just like Manning with the Colts.
6. Same HC and system whole career. Never had to change.
7. Never has to carry the team with his arm. Defense has been solid entire career just like his OL.

For the above reasons I think Joe and Elway are better. They had to fight through harder divisions, coaching changes, old school rules as well. QB's could actually get hit when they played.

In short, they can all go to hell. All of their arrogant and blind to all other teams being even in the league fans can go to hell.

Never go full reerun

Amnorix 10-26-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11837573)
No dude, my dislike for you and your kind is. Don't confuse the two.


Your dislike for me is grounded in hating Brady, the Patriots, and refusing to understand what Deflategate really is.

But hey, hate on. I don't care one damn bit.

TEX 10-26-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11837654)
Your dislike for me is grounded in hating Brady, the Patriots, and refusing to understand what Deflategate really is.

But hey, hate on. I don't care one damn bit.

No, my dislike for you is because you're such a dipshit. You and your kind refuse to acknowledge any wrong doing by the Patriots for anything. It goes far beyond Deflategate. I don't give two shits that you don't care. You're just one more idiot Patriot fan who likes to stir shit like this up to feel superior.

GloryDayz 10-26-2015 03:06 PM

Based on what I've seen from the NFL I can't hate on the Pats anymore. All I can do is wish my franchise was as smart as theirs, and as committed to winning as theirs.

Amnorix 10-26-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11837673)
No, my dislike for you is because you're such a dipshit. You and your kind refuse to acknowledge any wrong doing by the Patriots for anything. It goes far beyond Deflategate.


Only the rumors go far beyond deflategate. Rumors with little/no support by and large, and nothing in the way of context regarding the gamesmanship that others engage in.


Quote:

I don't give two shits that you don't care. You're just one more idiot Patriot fan who likes to stir shit like this up to feel superior.

Even though I've been a huge fan of the Patriots for a long, long time, their being very successful doesn't make me smart, any more than the Chiefs issues make you dumb. You're dumb all on your own.

Just Passin' By 10-26-2015 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11837704)
Only the rumors go far beyond deflategate. Rumors with little/no support by and large, and nothing in the way of context regarding the gamesmanship that others engage in.





Even though I've been a huge fan of the Patriots for a long, long time, their being very successful doesn't make me smart, any more than the Chiefs issues make you dumb. You're dumb all on your own.

There's really no sense in you wasting your energy on those who are too jealous to even try being rational.

Dave Lane 10-26-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11837571)
Right.

Clearly, those "deflated" balls made a major impact on his game.

He's just not the same player.

Stupidest thing I've ever seen

KC_Connection 10-26-2015 04:33 PM

The fact that the Patriots are the best organization by far in the sport doesn't negate the fact that they're cheating scum either, I'm afraid. Remember Barry Bonds?

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11837714)
There's really no sense in you wasting your energy on those who are too jealous to even try being rational.

So a rational person, then, believe what?

That there was a guy nicknamed the deflator because he was fat
That equipment managers routinely go into the bathroom with a bag of balls after footballs were already measured
That a qb who created the psi rule in the first place had no idea through an entire half of play that he was playing with deflated footballs
That Tom Brady had hours of conversation with his equipment manager about... Not footballs
That brady destroying his phone right after the investigation is just a coincidence


You're right. It's rational to believe the Patriots back story.

The nfl overreached because Goodell is a Doucher. No, the Patriots don't need deflated balls to win. But they went out of their way to cheat. Period.

BucEyedPea 10-26-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11837925)
So a rational person, then, believe what?

That there was a guy nicknamed the deflator because he was fat
That equipment managers routinely go into the bathroom with a bag of balls after footballs were already measured
That a qb who created the psi rule in the first place had no idea through an entire half of play that he was playing with deflated footballs
That Tom Brady had hours of conversation with his equipment manager about... Not footballs
That brady destroying his phone right after the investigation is just a coincidence


You're right. It's rational to believe the Patriots back story.

The nfl overreached because Goodell is a Doucher. No, the Patriots don't need deflated balls to win. But they went out of their way to cheat. Period.

Yes, because everyone on the team is guilty because the press said so! Typical chiefzilla illogic as justice.

For that matter everyone who has ever engaged in holding is a cheater whether or not the ref sees it to penalize it. BB paid his penalty, did not repeat his infraction and moved on. How 'bout you?
Oh I forgot you live by the press for truth.

Mennonite 10-26-2015 04:52 PM

Cheaters. That's the bottom line. And, no matter how much you lie and spin, nothing will ever change that fact.

penguinz 10-26-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11837624)
Brady has never earned anything really. Had it easy on numerous levels. Makes me wonder how good he really is but he is definitely very good but not the best ever. He had it easier than others that are in the conversation not to mention the rule changes make it alot easier for all QB's.

1. Falls ass backwards into starting job with Bledsoe injury.
2. Tuck rule blunder refs screwed up.
3. Bill's mass cheating with video, steeling play calls, play books and god knows what else. So bad Goodell had to destroy the evidence to protect the sport
4. FG kicker bailing him out numerous times in SB. Seahawks pathetic play call bailed him out this year.
5. Weak division. Really Really weak and still is now. No competition in 15 years just like Manning with the Colts.
6. Same HC and system whole career. Never had to change.
7. Never has to carry the team with his arm. Defense has been solid entire career just like his OL.

For the above reasons I think Joe and Elway are better. They had to fight through harder divisions, coaching changes, old school rules as well. QB's could actually get hit when they played.

In short, they can all go to hell. All of their arrogant and blind to all other teams being even in the league fans can go to hell.

This is beyond full reerun.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2015 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11837939)
Yes, because everyone on the team is guilty because the press said so! Typical chiefzilla illogic as justice.

For that matter everyone who has ever engaged in holding is a cheater whether or not the ref sees it to penalize it. BB paid his penalty, did not repeat his infraction and moved on. How 'bout you?
Oh I forgot you live by the press for truth.

Oh good, it's captain extreme apologist.

The video of the equipment manager going into the bathroom with a bag of footballs was reported by the Patriots. Not the media.

The Pats pr guy is the one who made the claim that the deflator was a weight loss joke.

It is a fact that Tom Brady was one of the architects of the psi rule in the first place.

I didn't keep up with the broken phone and the hours of phone calls to the equipment managers, but pretty sure those are true too.

But yeah... The media.

LiveSteam 10-26-2015 09:43 PM

tl,dr. Must be talking about the Bronco's


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