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kccrow 01-23-2017 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 12704937)
What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?
Would rather have the guy willing to take the shots down the field in Foles, but if Alex is the bridge then so be it. I can live with watching him fail for another year while the future gets prepared.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 01-23-2017 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 12704937)
What if Dorsey drafts a QB with a high pick and Alex is still here?
Then I will be playing more golf on Sunday's and I won't get indigestion watching Cassel II going fetal. That's a win win for me. :thumb:

gold_and_red 01-23-2017 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12704949)
I think most of us could live with that. Sitting a bona fide prospect for a year or two would be the best scenario Chiefs fans have seen since the 80's. We need to draft and develop. If that means Alex at the helm for the next year or two, I can live with that.
Lot of variables here.

- Dorsey/Andy could see that Alex cannot take this team past the divisional round. So why waste a year of rookie sitting on the bench if this team is not even sniffing the AFCCG? Rest of the full strength team on paper looks good to get to 8-8 with a rookie.

- Based on the above if they decide that the rookie starts why have Smith as his backup and create a possible controversy if we start 1-5 or something?

- Dorsey could like the QB class of 2018 better, so same old non-productive offense with no hope in sight for the fans who are not privy to Dorsey's thinking.

- Rookie QB could light a fire in Alex, he could play lights out (Okay that is just wishful thinking).

If it were up to me I would force Andy to turn over playcalling and offensive management to a real OC and stick with Alex for 2017. Then draft a QB in 2018, which is supposed to be a much better class than 2017.

Go Royals 01-23-2017 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 12704992)
Lot of variables here.

- Dorsey/Andy could see that Alex cannot take this team past the divisional round. So why waste a year of rookie sitting on the bench if this team is not even sniffing the AFCCG? Rest of the full strength team on paper looks good to get to 8-8 with a rookie.

- Based on the above if they decide that the rookie starts why have Smith as his backup and create a possible controversy if we start 1-5 or something?

- Dorsey could like the QB class of 2018 better, so same old non-productive offense with no hope in sight for the fans who are not privy to Dorsey's thinking.

- Rookie QB could light a fire in Alex, he could play lights out (Okay that is just wishful thinking).

If it were up to me I would force Andy to turn over playcalling and offensive management to a real OC and stick with Alex for 2017. Then draft a QB in 2018, which is supposed to be a much better class than 2017.
Reid's playcalling has receivers running wide open all over the field.

"Wait till next year, better QBs" is what the Chiefs have been doing the last few decades

gold_and_red 01-23-2017 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Royals (Post 12705017)
Reid's playcalling has receivers running wide open all over the field.

"Wait till next year, better QBs" is what the Chiefs have been doing the last few decades
Haven't receivers been running wide open for 4 years now? Why has Reid been waiting for next year every year now?

dls6501 01-23-2017 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12704763)
I think most people agree that he's middle of the pack.

It's just so tough to gauge his contribution because his greatest strength is just not ****ing up.. But then you re-watch game film and see that by not ****ing up he's actually ****ing you over by leaving multiple big plays and points on the field.
Said this before, and will say it again.

Some people (Tigger), cannot process the fact that Alex Smith's mistakes arent the conventional mistakes a QB makes (such as throwing a pick six, throwing in interception during crunch time, etc).

Alex Smith mistakes are opting for a dump off when he has a receiver sprinting wide open down field. Alex Smith mistakes are bailing from a clean pocket right as a WR is breaking open.

While throwing interceptions can be critical, game changing mistakes, I would argue that missing a touchdown that a junior college QB would hit on can be just as backbreaking to a team. Alex demonstrated just that last weekend.

Go Royals 01-23-2017 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 12705020)
Haven't receivers been running wide open for 4 years now? Why has Reid been waiting for next year every year now?
They most certainly have. 2013 was the apex of Smiff's pathetic little career and once he signed his extension that offseason he was tied to the team a minimum of three years. If they had gotten rid of him any point before this offseason, they would've taken it in the turd cutter from his dead money.

Now is the time to draft a freakin quarterback.

gold_and_red 01-23-2017 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 12705056)
Said this before, and will say it again.

Some people (Tigger), cannot process the fact that Alex Smith's mistakes arent the conventional mistakes a QB makes (such as throwing a pick six, throwing in interception during crunch time, etc).

Alex Smith mistakes are opting for a dump off when he has a receiver sprinting wide open down field. Alex Smith mistakes are bailing from a clean pocket right as a WR is breaking open.

While throwing interceptions can be critical, game changing mistakes, I would argue that missing a touchdown that a junior college QB would hit on can be just as backbreaking to a team. Alex demonstrated just that last weekend.
Right! It is exactly why lot of Chiefs games remain close until the very last play. Many here have argued winning close games while expecting the D and ST to always make a play is not sustainable.

Red Dawg 01-23-2017 01:32 PM
Smith should be cut! We have seen the all 22 reviews for 4 years now it says he sucks. That is all that needs to be said. Give Foles his 10 mil, draft a QB early and let's get better.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 01-23-2017 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12705074)
Smith should be cut! We have seen the all 22 reviews for 4 years now it says he sucks. That is all that needs to be said. Give Foles his 10 mil, draft a QB early and let's get better.
This times eleventy billion

SuperBowl4 01-23-2017 01:52 PM
Does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?

Coogs 01-23-2017 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 12704887)
12-4 is so mediocre especially when some of your playmakers like Maclin who had a rough year, Conely who played like a 3rd string WR all year, and Alert Wilson (need I say anymore?). Kelce and Hill were the only bright spots on the team this year. Ware did his part, but he needs some more help. Not to mention, some key players hurt in the OL and a depleted DL and no ILBs worth mentioning at the end of the year. Cornerbacks finally got it together at the end of the year. Special teams was fantastic. But, who is to blame because the average fan above who mentioned we got him all these tools, but forgets to mention the players that were hurt... Alex Smith that's who! And some of you are so butt hurt that you can only point your finger at Alex Smith, as if he was the only player on that field who played against the Steelers that made a mistake? You're some of the same fans that predicted we'd go 8-8 this year or worse! You are some of the same people that drag this fan base down and are nothing, but whiny b*tches. Mellinger and you whiny b*tches should move on if you ask me! Quit your crying, put some pampers on if you can't wipe your own ass, and look at the bigger picture for a change! Bunch Alex Smith haters!
I agree that Ware needs help. He needs help from his QB. The pass that wasn't made to Hill is one prime example. That pass needs to fly, even if it is incomplete. Even the threat of a downfield passing game could lead to Ware being able to run it 25-30 times a game like the RB from the Steelers did for a buck-seventy.

Chiefnj2 01-23-2017 04:06 PM
Alex Smith is a job saver. Reid and Dorsey are in no danger of being fired or replaced or anything else when they have a team, including QB, who is getting them to the playoffs. That's why Marvin Lewis is still around.

Easy 6 01-23-2017 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12705074)
Smith should be cut! We have seen the all 22 reviews for 4 years now it says he sucks. That is all that needs to be said. Give Foles his 10 mil, draft a QB early and let's get better.
So much this... yes, interceptions would go up under Foles

But so would chunk plays and touchdowns, give the guy a full offseason and camp as the starter and watch our underutilized stars like Hill, Kelce and Maclin blow up

He is in house, there would be no learning curve on the verbiage... he is the perfect bridge player for any potential rookie

I know I'm not the only one who noticed the difference in playcalling and/or decision making during his game and a half this year... sure, he misfired on some of those long throws, but at least he took those shots

And dont tell me about his time with Kelly, or those disgraceful Rams... think about him with permanent starter reps under Reids tutelage

Alas, I fear its all a fever dream anyway... they're gonna stick with one of the easiest to gameplan for QBs around next season, I'm sure of it

Tribal Warfare 01-23-2017 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12704955)
Feb 2013 join date. Enough said.
The Alex cult


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