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Dr. Gigglepants 03-05-2012 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8419354)
I'm not arguing that but he really tries hard to get both sides backs up. He is still going on about how KU-Kstate fans greatly outnumber MU grads in the KC area counting 3 Missouri and 2 Kansas counties.

Btw it's working 2 po'd Missouri callers back to back with more on the hook.
Yeah and the last 2 callers have taken him to task for using that metric.
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KC_Connection 03-05-2012 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8419342)
I know, right? I mean poor ol' Self only has 1 4-star recruit coming off the bench for him this season.

The narrative around this KU team has just become laughable. As though they're some squad full of plucky upstarts and scrubs; that only Bill Self could have seen and unlocked their potential. It's only the National player of the year surrounded by 4 and 5 star recruits that didn't play until this season. Your worst starter is probably Eli Johnson and he was only a 5-star and the #4 ranked PG in the country.

Your worst starter was literally a higher ranked player than anyone on Mizzou (save maybe Pressey) or anyone on Iowa State not named Royce White. And I'm supposed to fall all over myself to praise Bill Self for not letting them piss down their legs.

There are maybe 3 or 4 teams in all of CBB that have more raw talent on them than KU and I'm supposed to get all weepy for Bill Self because he doesn't have his usual roster that goes 7-deep with blue-chippers.

Cry me a ****ing river.
Self recruited all those players, though. Then he developed them throughout the season on the way to winning the B12 by two entire games and being clearly the best team in the league. That's deserving of some recognition.

Ceej 03-05-2012 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8419359)
The only person who picked KU fifth was Jack Harry, and well, he is hardly an expert.
Then, that's what I remembered. Just had the number 5 picked in my head.

My bad.

nychief 03-05-2012 02:39 PM
KK is a complete moron.

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 02:39 PM
KU fan calls in and agrees with KK, this is fun even with our non rival. :)

DJ's left nut 03-05-2012 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419364)
Self recruited all those players, though. Then he developed them throughout the season on the way to winning the B12 by two entire games and being clearly the best team in the league. That's deserving of some recognition.
He did a nice job.

So did Haith and so did Hoiberg. It's not as though picking either of them ahead of Self is some travesty to the right-thinking world, as Wickedlock is suggesting.

I'd give it to Haith because I think he's neck and neck with the other 2 AND he did it after having to change everything on the fly due to losing Bowers. From a raw coaching standpoint, I think he did the best job.

Then I'd give it to Hoiberg because I think his team took on his gritty personality and won some games they had no business winning.

Self comes in 3rd for a championship season where his roster suggests he had more raw talent at his disposal than anyone else in the conference. Those 3 are the clear separation and I see nothing to suggest that Self has a headlock on this thing.

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 02:42 PM
KK now believes that Mizzou is a program equivalent with Missouri State, and should only play KU in Lawrence.

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8419388)
He did a nice job.

So did Haith and so did Hoiberg. It's not as though picking either of them ahead of Self is some travesty to the right-thinking world, as Wickedlock is suggesting.

I'd give it to Haith because I think he's neck and neck with the other 2 AND he did it after having to change everything on the fly due to losing Bowers. From a raw coaching standpoint, I think he did the best job.

Then I'd give it to Hoiberg because I think his team took on his gritty personality and won some games they had no business winning.

Self comes in 3rd for a championship season where his roster suggests he had more raw talent at his disposal than anyone else in the conference. Those 3 are the clear separation and I see nothing to suggest that Self has a headlock on this thing.
Our sixth man is a walk on, just fyi.

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8419388)
He did a nice job.

So did Haith and so did Hoiberg. It's not as though picking either of them ahead of Self is some travesty to the right-thinking world, as Wickedlock is suggesting.

I'd give it to Haith because I think he's neck and neck with the other 2 AND he did it after having to change everything on the fly due to losing Bowers. From a raw coaching standpoint, I think he did the best job.

Then I'd give it to Hoiberg because I think his team took on his gritty personality and won some games they had no business winning.

Self comes in 3rd for a championship season where his roster suggests he had more raw talent at his disposal than anyone else in the conference. Those 3 are the clear separation and I see nothing to suggest that Self has a headlock on this thing.
Plus...Haith is 3-1 versus the other coaches in question. Haith won the "head to head" match up among the group.

Ebolapox 03-05-2012 02:43 PM
ROFL

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8419394)
KK now believes that Mizzou is a program equivalent with Missouri State, and should only play KU in Lawrence.
I'm listening and laughing at all the MU fans getting pissed and calling the show.

Bambi 03-05-2012 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8419342)
I know, right? I mean poor ol' Self only has 1 4-star recruit coming off the bench for him this season.

The narrative around this KU team has just become laughable. As though they're some squad full of plucky upstarts and scrubs; that only Bill Self could have seen and unlocked their potential. It's only the National player of the year surrounded by 4 and 5 star recruits that didn't play until this season. Your worst starter is probably Eli Johnson and he was only a 5-star and the #4 ranked PG in the country.

Your worst starter was literally a higher ranked player than anyone on Mizzou (save maybe Pressey) or anyone on Iowa State not named Royce White. And I'm supposed to fall all over myself to praise Bill Self for not letting them piss down their legs.

There are maybe 3 or 4 teams in all of CBB that have more raw talent on them than KU and I'm supposed to get all weepy for Bill Self because he doesn't have his usual roster that goes 7-deep with blue-chippers.

Cry me a ****ing river.
I'm a KU fan, I don't cry. Never had a reason to.

I just think it's hilarious that Self respected Haith enough to vote him #1 when everyone knows these two teams are by far the two best in the league. And Haith is continuing to cry about KU.

I don't care if Self has better players than Hoiberg. Recruiting is at least 50% part of the job.

But I admit I have to hold back here because I don't know for sure who Haith voted for. I don't know where that posted list came from.

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8419402)
I'm listening and laughing at all the MU fans getting pissed and calling the show.
KK is pulling out all of the stops to be sure.

Mizzou has no presence in KC...KK says so, so it must be true.

Molitoth 03-05-2012 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8419342)
I know, right? I mean poor ol' Self only has 1 4-star recruit coming off the bench for him this season.

The narrative around this KU team has just become laughable. As though they're some squad full of plucky upstarts and scrubs; that only Bill Self could have seen and unlocked their potential. It's only the National player of the year surrounded by 4 and 5 star recruits that didn't play until this season. Your worst starter is probably Eli Johnson and he was only a 5-star and the #4 ranked PG in the country.

Your worst starter was literally a higher ranked player than anyone on Mizzou (save maybe Pressey) or anyone on Iowa State not named Royce White. And I'm supposed to fall all over myself to praise Bill Self for not letting them piss down their legs.

There are maybe 3 or 4 teams in all of CBB that have more raw talent on them than KU and I'm supposed to get all weepy for Bill Self because he doesn't have his usual roster that goes 7-deep with blue-chippers.

Cry me a ****ing river.

:clap:

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8419411)
KK is pulling out all of the stops to be sure.

Mizzou has no presence in KC...KK says so, so it must be true.
LMAO i enjoy smack as much as the next guy.

Bearcat 03-05-2012 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8419342)
I know, right? I mean poor ol' Self only has 1 4-star recruit coming off the bench for him this season.

The narrative around this KU team has just become laughable. As though they're some squad full of plucky upstarts and scrubs; that only Bill Self could have seen and unlocked their potential. It's only the National player of the year surrounded by 4 and 5 star recruits that didn't play until this season. Your worst starter is probably Eli Johnson and he was only a 5-star and the #4 ranked PG in the country.

Your worst starter was literally a higher ranked player than anyone on Mizzou (save maybe Pressey) or anyone on Iowa State not named Royce White. And I'm supposed to fall all over myself to praise Bill Self for not letting them piss down their legs.

There are maybe 3 or 4 teams in all of CBB that have more raw talent on them than KU and I'm supposed to get all weepy for Bill Self because he doesn't have his usual roster that goes 7-deep with blue-chippers.

Cry me a ****ing river.
They lost over 60 ppg from last year, and since that team couldn't beat VCU, I don't see why KU fans would have high expectations going into the season. Thomas Robinson was 6th in PPG and 2nd in rebounds on the team last year, and despite KU's success this year, they're like 295th in the country in bench points. I don't think he deserves COY over Hoiberg, but I don't see how it's unreasonable to mention his name.

The hyperbole is entertaining though... whiny bunch today.

Saul Good 03-05-2012 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419364)
Self recruited all those players, though. Then he developed them throughout the season on the way to winning the B12 by two entire games and being clearly the best team in the league. That's deserving of some recognition.
He recruited them this year? It was a single season award, right?

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419424)
He recruited them this year? It was a single season award, right?
He recruited them in preparation for a year like this. He should be credited with that, yes.

Molitoth 03-05-2012 02:51 PM
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Recruiting is at least 50% part of the job.
The tradition of Kansas basketball gets the other 50% ? Self is a damn fine coach, but:

Kids don't go to Missouri for their tremendous basketball program and it's history. They go because they can't get into KU, Duke, NC, etc. These schools will always have the upper hand in recruiting, no matter who the coaches are.

What Self did with his cast of The best player in college basketball and remaining 4-5star recruits was as expected. What Haith did with his last minute lineup was outstanding.

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8419419)
They lost over 60 ppg from last year, and since that team couldn't beat VCU, I don't see why KU fans would have high expectations going into the season. Thomas Robinson was 6th in PPG and 2nd in rebounds on the team last year, and despite KU's success this year, they're like 295th in the country in bench points. I don't think he deserves COY over Hoiberg, but I don't see how it's unreasonable to mention his name.

The hyperbole is entertaining though... whiny bunch today.

COTY is a great award for your coach to get. It means your team is having a very good year. But at the end of the day, who really cares? I want a final four.....I could care less about COTY compared to that.

Three coaches in the BIG XII did a great job with their teams this year. And guess what...all three got a piece of the COTY honors. Hoiberg and Self split the coaches award, and Haith got the AP COTY award for the Big XII. Everybody wins, and everyone can claim their guy was COTY.

Saul Good 03-05-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8419419)
They lost over 60 ppg from last year, and since that team couldn't beat VCU, I don't see why KU fans would have high expectations going into the season. Thomas Robinson was 6th in PPG and 2nd in rebounds on the team last year, and despite KU's success this year, they're like 295th in the country in bench points. I don't think he deserves COY over Hoiberg, but I don't see how it's unreasonable to mention his name.

The hyperbole is entertaining though... whiny bunch today.
Yes, your hyperbole about it being unreasonable to even mention his name is laughable. Nobody said anything close to that, not that KU fans care about Mizzou.

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 02:52 PM
I will predict what KK will say after his current line of smack dies down...

"No one is upset that Martin voted for Self, it's obvious FM didn't really see stiff competition between MU and Kstate having beaten them twice."

Bambi 03-05-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419351)
KK's ratings have been in the toilet for a while now. He's always been a bit of a shit stirrer, but he's had to take it to a new level in the past year.

I'll admit that I was jealous of Nebraska last year and liked listening to KK bag on them, so maybe it works. The difference is that you can alienate the Nebraska fanbase and not lose many listeners in KC. I don't think that's true of Mizzou.

Its not like there's anything else interesting about his show. Smoke and Fire commercials, the Racing Boys, and soon to be bitching about putting up screens at Kaufman Stadium for 2 hours a day now that baseball season is around the corner.

I listen to 810 until 2:00 and switch to 610 (if I'm listening to the radio).
He lights up Twitter and the other local media more than anyone else and it isn't even close.

Well....maybe Jack Harry that is

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8419442)
The tradition of Kansas basketball gets the other 50% ? Self is a damn fine coach, but:

Kids don't go to Missouri for their tremendous basketball program and it's history. They go because they can't get into KU, Duke, NC, etc. These schools will always have the upper hand in recruiting, no matter who the coaches are.

What Self did with his cast of The best player in college basketball and remaining 4-5star recruits was as expected. What Haith did with his last minute lineup was outstanding.
Plus, everyone seems to have forgotten that Bowers was considered close to or equal to Denmon in importance to this team going into the season. So Haith had to overcome a season ending injury to a key starter as well.

Saul Good 03-05-2012 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419441)
He recruited them in preparation for a year like this. He should be credited with that, yes.
That's an idiotic POV. What he did in 2009 should have no bearing on what he did this year from a coaching standpoint.

Bambi 03-05-2012 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419424)
He recruited them this year? It was a single season award, right?
Haith was given a complete team that has appeared in the tourney 3 years in a row.

Saul Good 03-05-2012 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8419455)
He lights up Twitter and the other local media more than anyone else and it isn't even close.

Well....maybe Jack Harry that is
Too bad he doesn't light up Arbitron.

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419441)
He recruited them in preparation for a year like this. He should be credited with that, yes.
Seems like before this year, KU fans were bitching high and low about how Self had fallen short in the recruiting area over the last couple of years.

DeezNutz 03-05-2012 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419482)
Too bad he doesn't light up Arbitron.
His ratings have really dipped below that whiny wannabe on 610? Now that is embarrassing.

Bearcat 03-05-2012 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419451)
Yes, your hyperbole about it being unreasonable to even mention his name is laughable. Nobody said anything close to that, not that KU fans care about Mizzou.
DJ's post was about KU/COTY.
My post was about KU.
The discussion is about COTY.

When did I 'care' about MU?

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8419481)
Haith was given a complete team that has appeared in the tourney 3 years in a row.
Haith was given a team that was picked fourth or fifth in the conference WITH Bowers in the line up. He turned a border line top 25 team into a top 5 team in the country....Self had much more in the cupboard than Haith did.

DJ's left nut 03-05-2012 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8419396)
Our sixth man is a walk on, just fyi.
Naadir Tharpe is a 4-star coming off your bench. Your 5 starters are all 4 stars or better.

But hey, you have to make due with a scrappy, white 3-point shooter coming first off your bench, so clearly it's been a huge mountain for you to climb. You have a walk-on 6th man; huzzah. Our 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th man are walk-ons - do we get a medal for that?

Like I said, the narrative around this KU squad is ridiculous. We're all supposed to bow to Bill Self because he only has 6 4-star guys on his roster. Boo - ****ing - hoo.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:02 PM
Honestly who gives a ****.

Mizzou will have a good but prob not great run and Kansas will lose to a Missouri Valley team.

Or maybe not. Lets just keep playing basketball. JFC.

Bambi 03-05-2012 03:02 PM
KK has only dropped below 610 because 610 has the Royals games which skew the numbers during the afternoon timeslot. This is pretty common knowledge and was discussed a year or so ago when 610 got the contract.

eazyb81 03-05-2012 03:02 PM
@GottliebShow
Frank Haith is AP national COY, not one of two Big 12 COYs--- now that is interesting

LMAO at the petty Big Leftovers.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8419483)
Seems like before this year, KU fans were bitching high and low about how Self had fallen short in the recruiting area over the last couple of years.
Some were, sure. But you can't help the idiots. I haven't criticized Self for anything in a very long time. He's been running the best basketball program in the country for a decade.

Bambi 03-05-2012 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419495)
Honestly who gives a ****.

Mizzou will have a good but prob not great run and Kansas will lose to a Missouri Valley team.

Or maybe not. Lets just keep playing basketball. JFC.
Look, CP aren't the only ones arguing.

:)

Doug Stewart is an 810 host...

Doug Stewart ‏ @dougstewart1
Nearly 61,000 UMKC alumni live in the metro area. I guess they don't count in this little argument cause Im sure none of them are MU fans.

DeezNutz 03-05-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419495)
Honestly who gives a ****.

Mizzou will have a good but prob not great run and Kansas will lose to a Missouri Valley team.

Or maybe not. Lets just keep playing basketball. JFC.
And dipshit KU fan will be calling for the CoTY's head. LMAO. March in Beakerville.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419466)
That's an idiotic POV. What he did in 2009 should have no bearing on what he did this year from a coaching standpoint.
It's an idiotic POV to act like recruiting doesn't matter for awards like these when half of building a successful program comes from that end of the game. It all adds up.

DJ's left nut 03-05-2012 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8419419)
They lost over 60 ppg from last year, and since that team couldn't beat VCU, I don't see why KU fans would have high expectations going into the season. Thomas Robinson was 6th in PPG and 2nd in rebounds on the team last year, and despite KU's success this year, they're like 295th in the country in bench points. I don't think he deserves COY over Hoiberg, but I don't see how it's unreasonable to mention his name.

The hyperbole is entertaining though... whiny bunch today.
Where's the hyperbole?

Does KU not have 6 four-star or better recruits on their squad? Did most of those kids not have at least a year of significant playing time for a major D-1 school (a #1 seed last season, if I'm not mistaken)?

It's not unreasonable to mention his name - it's the fact that dipshits like Wickedson are going the opposite route that has me annoyed. This isn't a rag-tag group of misfits that Self is coaching - there is an insane amount of talent on that squad and more experience than KU fans are wanting to concede.

Saul Good 03-05-2012 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8419481)
Haith was given a complete team that has appeared in the tourney 3 years in a row.
He took over an unranked team that was picked to finish 4th in the conference before the second best player was lost for the season. The dude took 7 scholarship players, taught them a new system, used a 2 guard at the 4, and has the team in the top 5 at the end of the season.

He's going to win NCOTY. I might be in the minority, but I'm glad he didn't win the conference award. It shows that the league is obsessed with our promotion, and that gives me a chuckle.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:06 PM
Dr. Tajudeen Soyoye needs to Mizzou this thread up.

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Bearcat 03-05-2012 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419495)
Honestly who gives a ****.

Mizzou will have a good but prob not great run and Kansas will lose to a Missouri Valley team.

Or maybe not. Lets just keep playing basketball. JFC.
Watch out for 'B'righam Young, 'B'elmont, 'B'ucknell, and 'B'aylor!!!!

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:07 PM
I suspect the majority of MU fans will turn on Haith far sooner than the majority of KU fans turn on Self (though it's very hard to envision a scenario right now where that could actually occur at KU). MU, after all, is likely to fade back into mediocrity at some point.

Ebolapox 03-05-2012 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8419500)
Look, CP aren't the only ones arguing.

:)

Doug Stewart is an 810 host...

Doug Stewart ‏ @dougstewart1
Nearly 61,000 UMKC alumni live in the metro area. I guess they don't count in this little argument cause Im sure none of them are MU fans.
why do I picture 'battle of the network anchors' from anchorman when I read this?

NO COMMERCIALS... NO MERCY!

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|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:09 PM
What a bunch of dolts. This is where Missouri was before Haith came along. Nobody knew what the **** was going on.

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Saul Good 03-05-2012 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419505)
It's an idiotic POV to act like recruiting doesn't matter for awards like these when half of building a successful program comes from that end of the game. It all adds up.
Of course it adds up. He didn't recruit those players THIS YEAR, though. It's an annual award. If you want to include his 2012 recruits when factoring everything in, fine.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8419497)
@GottliebShow
Frank Haith is AP national COY, not one of two Big 12 COYs--- now that is interesting

LMAO at the petty Big Leftovers.
I did say that complaining about B12 officiating did Haith no favors in that vote. He clearly deserved at least a share.

mnchiefsguy 03-05-2012 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419515)
I suspect the majority of MU fans will turn on Haith far sooner than the majority of KU fans turn on Self (though it's very hard to envision a scenario right now where that could actually occur at KU). MU, after all, is likely to fade back into mediocrity at some point.
KU fans should never turn on Self. He should pretty much have a lifetime pass given the success that he has had. Still....if KU is a high seed and they fail to make the final four, you will hear rumblings from some of the KU faithful.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419515)
I suspect the majority of MU fans will turn on Haith far sooner than the majority of KU fans turn on Self (though it's very hard to envision a scenario right now where that could actually occur at KU). MU, after all, is likely to fade back into mediocrity at some point.
Ha, Kansas fans are the biggest group of self loathing pricks I have ever seen. Nobody has taken so little joy out of so much success.

It is like watching Hamas Jenkins watch baseball.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419523)
Of course it adds up. He didn't recruit those players THIS YEAR, though. It's an annual award. If you want to include his 2012 recruits when factoring everything in, fine.
Except that's illogical. We won't know how good his recruiting class of 2012 was until years from now, after the 2012 award for coaching has already been given.

You have to evaluate him by the talent he's brought and developed right here and right now.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419530)
Ha, Kansas fans are the biggest group of self loathing pricks I have ever seen. Nobody has taken so little joy out of so much success.

It is like watching Hamas Jenkins watch baseball.
I love it though. Watching people joylessly jump off of cliffs when their team is down 3 in the 1st half.


LOOOVVVEEE

eazyb81 03-05-2012 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419524)
I did say that complaining about B12 officiating did Haith no favors in that vote. He clearly deserved at least a share.
You still don't get it. Haith would not have been named COY by the coaches even if he won in the Phraud.

This whole situation just makes the Big Leftover schools look like insecure little bitches. I love it.

Molitoth 03-05-2012 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419515)
MU, after all, is likely to fade back into mediocrity at some point.
You are right because MU doesn't have a rich basketball tradition to recruit for it. Haith is going to have to bust his ass in recruiting in order to succeed. Self just has to show up and coach because recruits flock to the school of Kansas.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:13 PM
Pete. Yea...you know how we have one Pete? Sure he wants them to win and goes WOO! when they do but he spends all the other time bitching and complaining and talking about how they are much much worse than they actually are and basically putting up the white flag for Mizzou for no reason.

There are Kansas fans like that for miles.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8419529)
KU fans should never turn on Self. He should pretty much have a lifetime pass given the success that he has had. Still....if KU is a high seed and they fail to make the final four, you will hear rumblings from some of the KU faithful.
From the idiots, perhaps, but not from me. I already recognize the tournament for what it is, a luckfilled crapshoot. Anybody can lose in a single elimination tournament.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419530)
Ha, Kansas fans are the biggest group of self loathing pricks I have ever seen. Nobody has taken so little joy out of so much success.

It is like watching Hamas Jenkins watch baseball.
I miss Hamas. He may have been a Mizzou fan, but he at least understood sports unlike yourself.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419552)
I miss Hamas. He may have been a Mizzou fan, but he at least understood sports unlike yourself.
I like him as well!

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8419542)
You still don't get it. Haith would not have been named COY by the coaches even if he won in the Phraud.
I very much doubt that. The collapse in that game combined with his complaints afterwards (and the fact that MU is leaving the conference) sealed his fate, though.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419546)
Pete. Yea...you know how we have one Pete? Sure he wants them to win and goes WOO! when they do but he spends all the other time bitching and complaining and talking about how they are much much worse than they actually are and basically putting up the white flag for Mizzou for no reason.

There are Kansas fans like that for miles.
I hate to break it to you, but there are fans like that in every fanbase.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419568)
sealed his fate, though.
ooo drama!

I am glad we all agree this wasn't about the game but about B12 coaches being petty.

I am fine with the situation because everyone seems to agree on the basis of it.

Bambi 03-05-2012 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8419509)
He took over an unranked team that was picked to finish 4th in the conference before the second best player was lost for the season. The dude took 7 scholarship players, taught them a new system, used a 2 guard at the 4, and has the team in the top 5 at the end of the season.

He's going to win NCOTY. I might be in the minority, but I'm glad he didn't win the conference award. It shows that the league is obsessed with our promotion, and that gives me a chuckle.
I have no problem with Haith winning any coach of the year awards.

My original point was calling him out for choosing Hoiberg over Self while Self voted for him.

Haith and MU's pettiness is what makes me chuckle. Guess we all get a laugh this afternoon.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419571)
I hate to break it to you, but there are fans like that in every fanbase.
Of course there are.

But Kansas fans...its an incredible percentage. Incredible. Oh the fun it is to read on twitter. A bunch of cowards with no belief in their good team pissing down their legs.

Saul Good 03-05-2012 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419548)
From the idiots, perhaps, but not from me. I already recognize the tournament for what it is, a luckfilled crapshoot. Anybody can lose in a single elimination tournament.
Maybe some banker 20 years from now will decide that KU was the national champion in 2011, and you can hang another banner. That's much better than the crapshoot.

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 03:23 PM
I don't know ANY KU fans that have called for Selfs' job since the Bucknell loss, and that was one fair weathered Dickhead fan.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419573)
ooo drama!

I am glad we all agree this wasn't about the game but about B12 coaches being petty.

I am fine with the situation because everyone seems to agree on the basis of it.
Oh, it was about the game and the aftermath too. That added into it.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419602)
Oh, it was about the game and the aftermath too. That added into it.
Yea, we know...it was voted on by jilted 15 year old girls. We are all in agreement you don't have to keep driving the point home.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419576)
Of course there are.

But Kansas fans...its an incredible percentage. Incredible. Oh the fun it is to read on twitter. A bunch of cowards with no belief in their good team pissing down their legs.
It's a frustrating fanbase at times for that reason. I can remember people calling for Tyshawn to be benched earlier this year...they absolutely hated him. It was crazy at the time (considering he was clearly the team's 2nd best player and had been a four year starter under Self) and it's even more absurd in retrospect after he entered God mode in January.

But then again, there are ignorant people in every fanbase. Being a member of quite a few of them (and a very diverse group), I've seen it.

Imon Yourside 03-05-2012 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419612)
It's a frustrating fanbase at times for that reason. I can remember people calling for Tyshawn to be benched earlier this year...they absolutely hated him. It was crazy at the time (considering he was clearly the team's 2nd best player and had been a four year starter under Self) and it's even more absurd in retrospect after he entered God mode in January.

But then again, there are ignorant people in every fanbase. Being a member of quite a few of them (and a very diverse group), I've seen it.
I was down on TT earlier this year, but it's not like i did anything but hope he would live up to his potential.

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419608)
Yea, we know...it was voted on by jilted 15 year old girls. We are all in agreement you don't have to keep driving the point home.
Whatever the reasons, I'm glad they at least recognized Self for forming the best team in the conference. He deserved it.

Molitoth 03-05-2012 03:30 PM
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My original point was calling him out for choosing Hoiberg over Self while Self voted for him.
You vote for who you really think deserves it, not "I will vote for you if you vote for me" politics.

Haith voting for Hoiberg is sincerity because if anyone other than Haith deserves it, it's Hoiberg.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419623)
Whatever the reasons,
What do you mean? We know the reasons.

Everyone in the Big12 and independent of the Big12 knew the reasons. People read the news...got a funny look on their face and turned their head in a curious position.

Haha. Oh the Big 12. Gonna miss it when it is gone in 6 years.

Bearcat 03-05-2012 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419571)
I hate to break it to you, but there are fans like that in every fanbase.
The entitled Red Wings fans are probably the worst I've seen in any sport, given the number of Cups they've won in the past ~20 years.... granted, I don't spend evenings reading their comments on Twitter. ROFL

KC_Connection 03-05-2012 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419631)
What do you mean? We know the reasons.

Everyone in the Big12 and independent of the Big12 knew the reasons. People read the news...got a funny look on their face and turned their head in a curious position.
I found the results more amusing than anything else. When your coach whines about B12 officiating on the way out of the conference, I can't say I blame anybody still involved in the conference for voting the way they did. Can you?


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Haha. Oh the Big 12. Gonna miss it when it is gone in 6 years.
Why would you ever miss it? It's not like MU has ever won anything in it.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8419648)
I don't spend evenings reading their comments on Twitter. ROFL
You don't have time. You are generally being a horrible mod.

DeezNutz 03-05-2012 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419650)
Why would you ever miss it? It's not like MU has ever won anything in it.
WHOA! HEY!!

Big guns. In a Mizzou thread, nonetheless, not that any KU fan cares.

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8419650)
Why would you ever miss it? It's not like MU has ever won anything in it.
It's a silly place.

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Bearcat 03-05-2012 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8419652)
You don't have time. You are generally being a horrible mod.
I'm a pretty good multitasker... I just have this weird thing where I watch sports for entertainment, so I tend to watch the teams I like instead of wasting time seeing what rival fans who take sports too seriously are saying.

Well, except here, obviously... where I can be a horrible mod and be entertained by your massive inferiority complex at the same time!

|Zach| 03-05-2012 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8419678)
I'm a pretty good multitasker... I just have this weird thing where I watch sports for entertainment, so I tend to watch the teams I like instead of wasting time seeing what rival fans who take sports too seriously are saying.

Well, except here, obviously... where I can be a horrible mod and be entertained by your massive inferiority complex at the same time!
So this is the part of the show where Bearcat mocks my interactions with rival fans in a Mizzou thread. heh...

Part of my job is dealing with social media...it is there and around me pretty much all the time. Not to mention I live in a city that is made up of both of our teams... colleagues, friends, acquaintances. I don't have to go hunting in the hills of Lawrence to find people being cowards while watching KU basketball. You mischaracterization of how I consume info was cute but fell flat. I mean jesus do you ever see game threads?

Bambi 03-05-2012 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8419624)
You vote for who you really think deserves it, not "I will vote for you if you vote for me" politics.

Haith voting for Hoiberg is sincerity because if anyone other than Haith deserves it, it's Hoiberg.
If either of those guys won the league I would agree with you.

Mark Mangino won AP NCOTY in 2007 but I didn't think he deserved it being that KU fell short of the goal of winning the national title.


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