You don't have to care to state the truth.

Although I do care at times.

A vote for Hoiberg does not equal pettiness. Now if Haith had voted for Rick Barnes or Billie Gilliespie, you might have an argument.

You are assuming pettiness with no proof. Typical dumbass post from you.

Leafs fans can be pretty bad. Don Cherry went off on Brian Burke the other night in a pretty funny rant for not having any Ontario players (who cares where the players come from if they're talented?) and Leafs fans ran with that as if it was a perfectly rational thought.

Lots of games to play. That is the best part of all this. I am having a hard time even giving much of a shit about the tourn because its just more sideshow to the real thing.

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Yep. I want a final four more than anything (I want a national championship in football too, but we are talking bball). They could skip the conference tournaments and go straight to the big dance and I would be okay with that....I am sure I will have more interest in the Big XII tourney on Thursday once Mizzou is playing again.

I've learned over time that you should enjoy every win you get (even in conference tournaments that have little meaning overall) because once you get to the real tournament every team's season ends in sadness and frustration except one.

I am going to enjoy the Big XII tourney, no doubt, but this season has a chance to be very special (it is already been special so far) for Mizzou, and most Mizzou fans are keeping their eyes on the prize so to speak.

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Maybe if Haith would have beat KSU in the Paige?

Prob not. 15 year old jilted girls care very little.

Maybe if he'd won the Big 12?

I don't know why everyone is so upset about this.


MU just had the best year in it's history and has a real chance to make some noise. Your coach didn't get voted Coach of the year, probably because schools are butthurt or thought Hoiberg or Self did a better job.

I'm happy for the guys who won the awards, but without more wins in March, these mean little.

:rolleyes:

If Haith would have won in the Phog, won the Big12 then he would have gotten COTY and Self wouldn't have. It's that simple.

But he didn't. And MU fans are crying about it.

There are arguments as to why Self deserves it, and there are arguments as to why Haith deserves it. (IMO Self deserves it every year until someone knocks them off).

The COTY award many times isn't the "Most improved team" award.

It is surprising.

But fantastic.

I don't think most folks are upset by it. Haith got COTY from the AP, Self and Hoiberg won the COTY from the league coaches.

KU fans seem to be a bit defensive in justifying their guy getting COTY....and Wickedson somehow sees a vote for Hoiberg as a slight against Bill Self, but other that, it is really more of a non-issue on a slow sports day as everyone awaits the Big XII tourney and March Madness.

Haith did get the AP COTY Award

Good post, but just to nip it in the bud...

This was not the best year in Mizzou history. In recent history, yes...

But I would put 93-94 - when they went undefeated in conference and won the league - the second and third Stipo and Sundvold team, and the 76-77 team above this one in terms of "best ever."

Have to win the conference (or do something in the tournament never done before by that school) to call it 'best year ever,' IMO.

I wasn't meaning to be offensive at all.

I was just saying that these awards are just that, awards. It's cool for the guys who got them and that they had great seasons, but I'm ready to move on to March.

At least for myself, the only thing I see as funny is the whole "OH NOES!!11! THE BIG LEFTOVER CRYBABIES DON'T WANT ANY MU PLAYER/COACH GETTING AWARDS!!1!1!"

Haith is deserving, no question. Self is too and Hoiberg is as well. I know I wouldn't have been upset to see Self not get it. He had a hell of a year, but there were also 2 others very deserving of it.

I think it seems obvious what happened. Everyone not affiliated with the Big 12 laughed and threw their hands up.

If you didn't have a dog in this issue then it came off as silly and petty. It was that obvious. I have enjoyed how the B12 came off in the whole thing.

I know you're not slanted toward one team or the other, but you're saying that neither Self nor Hoiberg deserved it I guess. Oh well....like I said, any of them were deserving.

Yeah, and calling it The Paige wasn't trolling either.

Self? No problem.

Hoiberg? Meh. And I don't feel like I am shitting on him or looking down at thr amazing job he has done but these are guys that are being measured against each other. Haith swept him.

Some in here calling AFH the Phraud, when KU has lost 1 game there in the last 4 or 5 years.


Sorry.


EDIT: this is a MU thread. I apologize for getting emotional about the situation. Sorry about the Paige comment.

IIRC, Wright beat Kietz 1 month in one category in March of 2011, hasn't done it since I don't think.

Here's the last 4 months.


WHB-AM 4.3 3.7 3.9 4.2
KCSP-AM 2.5 2.7 2.5 2.6

LMAO

Don't apologize, brah.

Nah, I don't want to come in here and stir shit up.


I was out of line. I wouldn't like it if a MU fan did it in the KU thread.

Uhhh...your diplomacy is noted but will be fruitless.

Troll to your heart's content.

Nah alot of these MU guys are good guys. I don't wanna run in here and trash their thread.


I don't have the ultimate MU hate that some KU fans do. I like giving MU fans a hard time sometimes, but I like to see them do well.

Good for him

jfc it's sports man......it's not like anyone loses sleep over this shit.

and if they do, well then they have very thin skin.

I thought he was worthy

This is the best team they've had in 4 years, but Norm also had a lot of better teams than this one.

i do as well.

This. Haith lost his best post player just before the season and turned his two-guard into a power forward. Seven scholarship players. He might not win the Big 12 Coach of the Year, but he will likely win national recognition.

From Kit Lisaskus the MU basketball equipment manager, talk about home cooking:

Friday afternoon the Tigers arrived by charter bus in Lawrence. Checking into the Marriott, they were met by hotel personnel and told the bus could not park there and were given a spot roughly 300 yards from the hotel entrance. Kit and his crew asked for hotel carts to transport luggage, etc, they were told no carts available. So the team and coaches packed their stuff 300 yards to the Marriott.


They then proceeded to wait in the lobby for over an hour to get checked in all the while being harassed by KU fans. That is OK. When the players were allowed in their rooms the phones constantly rang as the hotel had given out players room numbers to ANYONE who saw fit to call. This would go on until wee hours of the morning until the hotel turned the phones off. Backing up no meals were prepared for the team so they had to wait. Coaches contacted Allen Fieldhouse personnel for a shoot around Friday night. Could not do as for some reason KU had scheduled a women's game, never done before in KU/MU history. Only time available 8am the next morning??

Gets better, no shoot around so team assembles in banquet room at the Marriott for film session. Chairs and tables piled in the corner and the room filled with MUCK FIZZOU signs throughout the room. That's OK now let's watch the film OK but where is the video equipment that was to be provided? No one at the hotel could seem to find it??? NO film session. After a long and sleepless night the Tigers get some cold breakfast and head to Phog.

KU showed some real class there.

Obviously since he's from MU he's lying/KU taintlickers

Must have been payback for this.

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Since when did teams schedule their own league games? When exactly did the schedule come out? MU not smart enough to figure out how to unplug phones?

KU scheduled the game!!!

ROFL

Mizzou should be complaining to the Marriott.....I am sure Mariott would want to avoid any embarassment...that is horrible customer service, and some folks should be fired.

Who cares? That's what you expect.

It would really be impressive if Lawrence had a Marriott.

Springhill Suites by Marriott is in Lawrence.

How reliable a source is the MU equipment manager?

Does not really matter long term....Mizzou will not ever have to endure Lawrence KS again.

I don't know, nor do I care. I think it's kind of funny, actually.

Slow sports day.....

Don't you mean to say
"Spring Hill Suites by Marriott"?

Seriously, noone has ever called that motel by the river The Marriott. That, and the damn parking lot is barely a hundred yards long. If a quarter of that yarn were true, your Director of Basketball Operations ought to be keel-hauled. The nearest full-service Marriott is at 435 & Metcalf in OP.

BTW, why is he blaming KU for scheduling a women's basketball game on Friday night? The Big 12 schedules all league games.

What part of "I don't care" makes you think I'm the go-to guy on this?

Good Christ, they're even hyper sensitive about their ****ing hotels.

Hey now, Marriotts are classy joints LOL.

Do they own the Ball of Twine?

**** YOU AND YOUR HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS#!!1!11!!!

That's awesome.

I'm pretty sure that's completely made up, especially all the stuff involving the hotel.

And then the Marriott hotel staff brought out Kim English's mom and gang-raped her on the table where their breakfast was supposed to be served!!!111!

True story!!11111!1

Actually it was on the pinball machine.

I hope not, I want to believe.

A "The Accused" reference. You went to the "Wayback Machine" for that one...lol

Even in a sarcastic mode, this is a comment in poor taste.

Do we really expect anything better?

I'm pretty busy not giving a shit at the moment.

Feel free to weep about in my place for the time being.

Well, if that's the case...

Feel free to GTFO of our thread.

I think I'll stay.

You, in particular are mentally weak and will respond to any baiting.

Nah...not worth the tears. Just pointing out the obvious.

You know it's a POS comment....keep pretending there was something funny about it.

Continue feigning disgust at a message board comment.

The one thing I have come to realize about message boards....most guys post crap (like many of your comments) that they wouldn't have the balls to say to anyone in person.

I'd love to see you say this around Kim English....but the one thing I am sure of is that you wouldn't have the balls to do it...whether in sarcasm, jest or stupidity.

I'm proud you can distinguish the difference between message boards and real life.

Congrats.

Any wagers on which of these guys will let the other have the last word in this pointless argument?

LMAO

That's great.

Honestly....not sure why, if you think it is so pointless that you bothered to comment.

Because I thought it would get one or both of you to move on.

I don't need a post monitor...please feel free to move on.

Rubber match with Oklahoma State today. Hopefully the OSU team that played in Columbia will show up.

Baylor has already advanced, and KU/A & M is coming up. Great day for basketball!

It won't. It will be missing Nash and Jurick. ;)