So jd acknowledging that Haley didn't have much to work with and that Pioli didn't really have a chance to bring any one in that would have made this abortion better, you still want Haley fired?

I'm a big Andy Dalton backer (being a TCU alum) but no one was seriously talking about using a 1st round pick on him. He's played way better than anyone expected (including me) but let's not act like he was projected to be a 1st rounder.

I'm sure Haley brought Palko in. But he was brought in originally as a scout team QB. As a 3rd string QB or scout team QB, you could do a lot worse.

See, people are blaming Haley because he may have influenced bringing in a bad 3rd string QB. Anyone see the problem here? The problem is that the GM didn't give the head coach a good starter and the best he can say for the backup is that he has a 5th round rookie on the team.

Coaches shouldn't be fired for their decision on a #3 QB.

Dalton isn't a game manager. Dalton is a legit starting QB.

It's one thing to have a shit qb, but getting blown out this often is on the coach. Haley needs to go.

You're going to get blown out a lot when you have a QB who doesn't throw downfield and you don't yet have an elite defense. This is an offensive league, after all.

The question isn't why we're getting blown out now without a QB capable of taking this team on his shoulders. The question is, how often would we get blown out with a real QB? We don't really know the answer to that question. And as long as we don't know the answer to that, think it's rather unfair to speculate.

Haley needs to be fired, but firing him does not solve the problem, it's like doing radiation on metastates. It may alleviate some of the symptoms, but it's not curative therapy.

The QB of the team who kicked our ass today would have been a start.

Haley lost my support long ago and just reaffirmed that in the Home Opener when he brought his team in Totally unprepared.

His game clock managing is among the worst I have Ever seen as well.

No one was seriously talking about Christian Ponder going high in the first round either. But the Vikings took a swing at him. The Chiefs could have had a chance at Dalton. They could have brought in Kaepernick in the 2nd round. They could have looked at Clausen or Steven McGee or Skelton or McCoy, who are at least interesting guys to develop on the bench. I'm a firm believer that to develop young QBs, you have to have a constant pipeline of players you can evaluate, even if that means giving up a few picks to do so.

If you're looking for a backup, why not go with a veteran with some experience? Like a McCown, a Rosenfels, Grossman, Orlovsky? They're all better options than Palko is your QB goes down.

The pickings were slim. But it's bad when you only bring in one 5th round pick (in the 3rd year) as your developmental guy, and don't even TRY to bring in a capable backup.

Doesn't Dalton play like shit ala Cassel against good teams
[my apologies to Mr Dalton for the above comparison]

Dalton is 1-6 against above .500 competition and leads the 19th ranked passing attack. You can remove yourself from his nuts.

You saying the defense looked good today? Really? The offense, as bad as it was, scored 10 points today. That was enough last week to win because the D stepped up. They didn't step up today. 37 points against, and it could have been more if the Jets had tried.

The whole team sucked today.

Then you were never a Chiefs fan. Quitter.

I'm stunned that there are 7 people who added their support of him TODAY. That is some serious delusion. LMAO