I think people sometimes do rash things when they are in a poor mental state. Perhaps that was the deal with Belcher. Maybe someday we get the whole story of what was going through his head. Anyway, this vid doesn't make me think of JB as a bad person. Just the opposite, actually.

I don't know whether some people will hate this, but I'm gonna post it anyway.

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Calm down. I never even directed the blame for the miscommunication on you; it's evident that I didn't word things sensitively enough given the emotional state of most people in this thread, myself included.

I've been a strong supporter of the SOC movement since its inception (and I still am), and I've promoted it among all of my friends and coworkers (and I still will). I've said more than once that SOC isn't to blame for this event, and this will be the last time I repeat it. I have no interest in stifling the movement as a result of this incident.

I was speculating on the circumstances and motivations of the shooting, and then reflecting on how it made me feel. If it doesn't change your feelings or attitudes towards the team, then great. It did for me. You can either accept that and move on, or continue to insult my intelligence and character; I don't care which. I've taken the opportunity to repeat my thoughts in what is hopefully a clear and moderate fashion, and it will be the last I have to say on the matter.

Is what happened in dispute?

Apparently the NFL is telling the Panther players to travel to KC as normal

How would you be able to pull both of them aside is that something that's normal at practices?

I don't know how I could handle it if I saw someone kill themselves in front of me. I would take it personal.

Some of them weren't there.

They just woke up and heard that their teammate was dead...

Sure be nice for people to wait for all the facts before they run on with a bunch of emotionally laced diatribes.

He's also a human being who lost his life. If my friend lost his life, it would shake me the hell up, no matter what he or she may have done. I think it's ridiculous to suggest that a friend and teammate shouldn't be allowed to grieve for Belcher.

by using my incorrect words rather than my idea.


would the hunts adopting the child not be a humanitarian act? also provide the best resouces for the child to succeed?

Damn. :(

I just skimmed the thread and I'm in shock by this. What would possess Belcher to do it?

My heart goes out to the ones affected. Especially those that witnessed the event.

just let it go

damn. that will be very ****ed up if they have to play. as a fan I've kind of struggled with the players giving up so much of their health for the game. it's so violent, but i still watch. i know that players suffer from a whole host of problems after retirement, but i still watch. but if after something like this, if they still have to play then I don't know. I don't know if I can still be an nfl fan if that happens. it's just too much to ask of the players and the coaches.

Romeo and company will never be the same again after witnessing this.

If someone offed themselves at your workplace in front of a bunch of people would your work still make you come to work the next day?

Because we don't like murderers?