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Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.
(https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270480)
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When has Tony Romo ever proven to be consistently clutch? Alex Smith has proven to at the very least, to always give his team a CHANCE. That's not something that I have seen from Romo in the past decade. His chokes are frequent. The bobbled fg attempt, the choke against the jets, the choke against the saints last year, the choke against Washington. |
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There is so much suck in this thread...246 page of guys wanting to be right more than wanting the Chiefs to win.
Isn't it just easier to admit that Alex is better than you thought he'd be? Nobody claimed he'd be Dan Marino, but he's 2-0. |
The thing I like, no, LOVE about the guy is that he goes through his progressions, stands in the pocket and delivers the ball. Cassel never did that. He would stare guys down and throw it no matter what the coverage was, or instantly throw the checkdown.
I love that Smith is tough enough to take a sack rather than heave up a prayer that gets picked off. When watching him, you know that if he throws the ball, there's something there. The guy just refuses to force anything. That can be a double edged sword, but there are so many guys out there that cant stay patient and try to force the ball and they turn it over. So far, the guy's decision making has been on. I thought he was great in that Cowboys game because he was really getting the shit beat out of him for a stretch there. We couldn't block a damn soul. When this offense finds a way to get Jamaal Charles some damn carries, Alex is just going to be that much more dangerous when he's not being forced to be one dimensional by the playcalling. |
Yesterday, while watching the game, I was getting a bit frustrated with the offense as a whole during the 3rd quarter.
Then it just hit me how much better Smith is than Cassel. I mean he's just light years ahead, despite his shortcomings. Sure, he's no Peyton, but we're stuck with him and he's not all that bad. |
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The whole reason guys like Cassel and Smith get starts is that the NFL is incredibly mediocre. FFS, Tim Tebow has won as many playoff games as Alex Smith... winning 8-10 games per season isn't some huge accomplishment in this league, and if that's what you want out of a quarterback, then you should be thrilled, since that's what you'll get. But, everyone who's a "Smith hater" in this thread is looking beyond the first round of the playoffs. Even one of his biggest 49ers fans said last night that Smith is probably only around to get the Chiefs back to mediocrity so he can then mentor a franchise QB, which would be great.... and if Smith does it himself, even better.... but, not saying the Chiefs have a real QB who's a huge upgrade from any other retread after 2 wins isn't 'hating', it's simply remembering that the Chiefs have been doing this for four decades with no results. |
JFC... such misery.
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Alex has kicked ass. He plays with a lot of heart and zero turnovers unlike his replacement in San Fran who has nearly as many turnovers as quarters of football.
He lead the team in rushing yesterday and took what the D offered. This thread needs to be put out its misery. |
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San Fran messed up and got rid of the wrong qb. in your face harbaugh and sf fans hahahahah!
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I knew what you meant, but I never pass up the opportunity to be an ass. |
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We've done it all three times we've beat them, regardless of who the QB is. |
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1-1 |
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http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/192...et-dodge-o.gif |
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Two, including one that would have been housed and given the Cowboys the lead. Smith has been adequate. Fine. Solid. "Kicking ass" is an extreme stretch. Maybe compared to Matt Cassel/Brady Quinn/Brody Croyle/Tyler Palko, but not compared to legitimate NFL starting QBs. Chiefs fans have been watching QBs who ride the short bus for too long. Alex Smith rides on the long bus, but he's the guy sitting at the front of the bus, longingly looking at all the cool kids in the back. |
Do you any of you A Smith haters in this place realize that its the 2nd game of new offense? New Players, new system, 2 games??? Kapertat has been his is offensive system for going on 3 years now. Alex, 2 games with all new recievers, coaches, etc etc...
While he may never throw for 400 yards, maybe not even 350, lets give the team sometime to get the offense together. **** people, were winning right now and you all want to bitch about the QB, who by the way is directly responsible for one of the TDs (opening drive), therefore has a little something to do with the win. Just a little.... ****ing A this place is full of whiny little bitches who think they know more about football then the people who get paid to do football. |
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All that matters is scoreboard bitches. harbaugh is a clown! carrol owns that fool |
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.... and yes, quite full. :thumb: |
Defense wins championships!
**** all this my QB's dick is bigger than yours QB's if we only had one cry me a river BS! can we at least enjoy win 2-0 start without all the dickless whimpers from arm chair QB's from the planet! carry on |
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Under Harbaugh, Smith was 3-0 vs. the Seahawks. 0-2 with 2 blowout losses with Kaepernick.
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Did anyone else see that it was the Eagles who pulled out of a possible trade for Colin Kaepernick during the 2012 draft?
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FFS, was 'you' instead of 'they' really that confusing, to miss the entire freakin' point?
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The whole point was that Halfcan wanted to compare Smith's 0 turnovers to Kaepernick's 4 or whatever, ignoring all kinds of stuff like who the 49ers and Chiefs have played and how aggressive Kaepernick's had to be against the teams they've played vs how aggressive Smith's had to be. Of course Kaepernick has made more mistakes... if he doesn't throw for 400+ yards vs the 49ers, they lose. Smith hasn't had to do that, obviously. Meh, I'm done with it... a decade ago, it was all "at least we're winning!" when people tried pointing out the terrible, terrible defense, and none of it mattered come playoff time. In 2006, people ignored Herm's offense, and in 2010, people ignored the QB situation and the fact the Chiefs hadn't played anyone. If fans are excited to beat shitty teams and win 8-9 wins, good for them... it's been that way for 4 decades, so why expect more from the team you spend so much money and time and emotion on. We shouldn't talk about the big picture, because they're 2-0... we should all be celebrating or something. |
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Found a blog on it. Thsi is almost worthy of its own thread. LMAO Its so far off of what people here have been saying this whole off-season. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...had-kaepernick Imagine if San Francisco's Colin Kaepernick were quarterbacking the Philadelphia Eagles and not the San Francisco 49ers. It nearly happened. In the weeks leading up to the 2012 draft, the Eagles came close to trading a second-round draft pick to the 49ers for Kaepernick, league sources tell ESPN. The 49ers were open to trading him because Alex Smith just had led them to the NFC Championship Game and they weren't sure what to do with their now-starting quarterback. One league source maintains that the Eagles backed out of the proposed deal when they decided they would be able to draft Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson, whom they geared their whole draft around, league sources said. But then, just before Philadelphia could draft Wilson, the Seattle Seahawks selected him, leaving the Eagles to take Nick Foles, another quarterback they rated highly, though not nearly as high as Wilson. So as it turned out, neither Kaepernick nor Wilson wound up in Philadelphia, though each came close in his own way. And now the two quarterbacks that could have been Eagles square off Sunday night in a game that will help decide the NFC West winner -- all while Chip Kelly, Michael Vick and the much talked-about Eagles prepare to host the Chargers. |
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2-0 with lots of new parts... and you say you shouldn't be celebrating? WTF? The offense has had struggles that they shouldn't be having as a new team? Man... that is some serious hurt from past KC experiences that has made you this cynical and broken. I really hope you can shake it off and stop being so negative... and if you can not? Do you really need to drag everyone else down with you? |
Defense wins games. Offense determines by how much. See Seattle.
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Granted, the Chiefs running game hasn't taken off yet, but that oline for the 49ers is ahead of where the Chiefs is. Alex Smith wouldn't of needed 400 yards passing. And the Packers would of spent a lot more time on the sideline. |
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The team has flaws. Some of them are based on Alex Smith, who has shown some significant, limiting flaws in his play in the past, and who so far in a Chiefs uniform has done jack and shit to dispel them. I still would like to see Smith reverse course and prove he CAN rise above those flaws, as Andy Reid clearly thought he could when he brought Smith in to "win now" (a statement that doesn't represent 'win 7-10 now,' I'm sure). I'm just not going to blindly hope for it. |
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I know saying the same stuff over and over makes it seem like I'm desperate to discount anything and everything he does, but I'm really not... I'm just discounting the vibe that after 2 games we can definitely say this is a big upgrade from the last regime (of course, it's a huge upgrade from last year, but that's really not saying much). Speaking to a new offense, new coaches, etc; is kind of my point... everything I'm saying has 20 years of watching retreads and 8 years of Alex Smith stats backing it up. I'm not saying Smith is just another retread because of the past two games, I'm saying my opinion that was already there hasn't changed after two games... and why should it? He has a new coach, new offense, etc; and they've beaten freakin' Jacksonville and Dallas. Yet, others think it's this huge upgrade. I'm not the one being swayed by two games... if he proves otherwise (and again, he hasn't really had that chance yet), great; but being sold on him after two games is ludicrous (and yes, not being sold on him solely based on two games is just as ludicrous). |
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Second, I called that as a gif as soon as it was on tv. Yeah, its a seahawk and I get that, but dude, its ****ing hilarious..... |
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We have been telling you guys that this was going to happen since the moment the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith. |
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We all know it's just a part of your "I was right about Alex Smith" campaign that's basically become your life's work. It's all good Snoop. We already know what you're MO is. |
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Other people see Alex's contribution as stats, throwing yards, passing yards, tds. That has NEVER been my stance. Mine was always about helping the Chiefs WIN games. The only stat I ever mentioned, was 37 turnovers. Which is what the Chiefs had last year. Wins, and turnovers. Mac and I, told people that was where the biggest contribution would come from. So yes, I am allowed to gloat and be a "prophet" in that regard wouldn't you say? |
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There is no justifying the amount of hate towards the guy and anyone that has liked him. At least for two weeks the haters have had to eat crow- LMAO |
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"we won today, but we cant sustain this type of winning with these types of numbers from our qb." Then, the next week, Alex Smith wins, and its always about next week. Considering that every team loses, multiple times per season, they are bound to be right at least 4 or 5 times. |
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1-1 2-0 0 turnovers turnover machine (3 or 4? :shrug: ) Yeah, it's that simple. Nothing else matters when evaluating different QBs on different teams playing other different teams, etc. Why discuss reality when we make shallow comments.... he's just a hater and doesn't even get paid to do football! derp |
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And if Kaep had lit up a good defense for 400 yards, 70 percent completions, 3 TDs, and led the Chiefs to a win against an elite NFL team like the Packers, yes, I would explode. From excitement. Hell, I'll explode from excitement if Alex Smith manages to lead KC to a win against a similar team (key term: LEAD. That doesn't mean win a nailbiter with multiple scores set up by the defense). Kaerpernick looked bad last night, on the road, against what is likely the best defense in the National Football League. KC has not played a defense remotely in that neighborhood, but if it it did, the ultimate outcome is likely nearly the same (completely stagnant offense). There just will be a lot more punts and fewer turnovers. The Green Bay and Dallas defenses are pretty comparable... how did Kaerpernick do against Green Bay, again? |
The Eagles game will be interesting... on one hand, they have the worst pass defense through two games (oh noes, a built in excuse!!), but OTOH, they've put up 30 points in each game. Only them and the Chargers are averaging 30 points for and 30 against through two games, and with a short week against a the former coach, I don't expect their defense to improve much.
It will by no means give any definitive answers any more than any other single game, but it'll go a long way in showing what the Chiefs' defense is really made of... not just if Smith can match scoring drives, but how often he'll have to do it. |
The dropped picks argument is dumb as ****...just sayin
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he does take chances, he just prefers the smarter throws. I even say Clay point out that Alex Smith threw to a wide open McCluster because of a busted coverage. I thought that was the IDEA. Throw to the open guy. |
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Romo got away with a bullshit holding call on a horrible throw that was a pick. But I guess Alex must be perfect or else he doesn't live up to the CP standard. Speaking of perfect how about that 100% Redzone efficiency. |
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One can be skeptical about Alex Smith's performance and upside in KC without taking it to Clay-like levels of extreme. I've never really said Alex Smith was terrible. Or not worthy of starting in the NFL. Only that he is more middle of the pack than anything else, and that isn't good enough to get KC where we all want to go (legitimate contention, playoff wins, the Super Bowl, etc.) long-term. Obviously, Andy Reid saw something in Alex. I want to see it, too. I want to see it realized and brought out. It just hasn't been so far. He's been fine. Adequate. I'll believe that level of QB performance can win with this team in the playoffs when I see it. I'll believe Alex Smith can consistently raise above that level of performance when I see it. Quote:
I just think it fails the smell test to use Alex Smith's ball protection skills as such a huge strength and foundation for comparisons between Alex Smith and other QBs ... the day after he threw two passes into the hands of defenders. At least to a certain degree. |
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If you think that kind of offense will work deep into the playoffs, and it happens, then you'll have a big reason to gloat. Saying "I told you he could beat Jacksonville and Dallas by being efficient!" doesn't make sense to me, unless people in the offseason were saying that.... me, jsp, duncan, etc; haven't ever said he couldn't do that. Quote:
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I have never been as you said overly confident in Alex Smiths ability to put up tons of yards, I also realize that typically his teams don't score the most points in the league. And in a pass first league, it defies logic. I understand it. But, there were people here who said that him with Andy Reid away from the SF Run game Defense, and Coach Harbaugh that it wouldn't work. I don't even understand how its working. I thought the defense would be better just for the fact that it was pretty talented on paper, and that the offense not turning the ball over all the time would help. I thought that Charles would be more effective, but in reality, there has been no running game, and the offense has been able to score enough, combined with timely defensive turnovers and stops to keep winning. Im not gloating. It just is what it is. Some how, some way, Alex Smith has made a habit the past three years of doing just enough to win. Is he going to lose? Sure, if the Chiefs fall behind big, I don't know how they will get back into it. I know that Alex Smith isn't elite. The guys just keeps winning though. Its weird....... |
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