I think (not you in particular) that alot of the people to said I "expect" that, were being a little facetious if you will, setting the bar a bit higher. Maybe i'm off there, and it's been a while since that went down.

Must be the reason why I've said "And to his credit, Alex Smith has…" a half dozen times in this thread. :hmmm:

Again, not sure why you're quoting me.

I don't care about the money as much as I care about the commitment.

And with the new CBA, you'd actually be paying a newly drafted, elite QB much, much less for more a much bigger payoff down the road.

I'd rather pay $20M a year for an elite QB than .50 on the dollar for "good enough" - but that's just me.

But again, my concern is that if we extend him, we never try to improve at the position. Scrub late round/UDFA lottery tickets aren't going to cut it.

No, I don't.

But THIS guy does.

Now you see where I'm coming from?

Sure, but who's paying that for elite QB play?

The Broncos, Pats are getting what they're paying for.

I'd rather pay 20 million for elite to, but if I'm paying that I damn sure better get elite. Not good, but elite, cause thats gonna seriously hamstring me down the road.

I'm saying that, again, if he is what he's showing to be right now, you get him cheap and don't really have to look to upgrade. Yeah, if some opportunity arises that you cna't turn down, do it.

But the Alex Smith of the last 4 or 5 games is a potential top 10 QB. You can win and win when it counts with that without paying him 20 million per year.

For instance, if we get Smith for a deal like DJ said, we could add him, and potentially 2 other relaly good pieces in the offseason in free agency. I'm all for that.

Yep, that's me. I absolutely was wrong.

No one who a) doubts Alex Smith; b) applies logic and data to decisions/opinions could honestly say they were upset he didn't win that game, if he truly played a perfect game and the defense let him down.

I understand that B might be a foreign concept to some. But if Smith and the offense are good enough to win against an elite, playoff-level team and let down by the defense, I will take that as a positive sign for years to come. And fully jump on board with using him as more than a stop-gap.

You do realize Charles is rushing for a career low YPC under the master diagnoser this year, right?

09 5.9
10 6.4
11 Injured
12 5.3
13 4.8

Bolded: Exactly.

Until the past 4 games, Alex Smith had been a competent, starting NFL QB. Fine. OK. Not great, but solid. And was somewhere between the 15th-20th best starter in the league.

Hell, until the last two games, those were the types of numbers he was putting up. QB rating in the 80s. 60ish completion percentage. Avoiding risks, while sacrificing some big play potential. Numbers that COULD have been replicated in many different, less costly ways

If Alex Smith continues to play at his recent level - which is firmly top half in the league rather than bottom half - the compensation becomes much less of a sticking point, and confidence in success when it matters goes way up.

I know DJ thinks what we've seen recently is just Alex being Alex (over the past 5 years), but I don't agree with that.

I think there's a sizeable difference between 09 and 10 Alex and 11 and 12 Alex. And one just as large between the guy we've seen the past 4 games (or even since the bye) and the guy under center for San Fran in 11 and 12.

He's been much more willing to throw the ball beyond 10 yards since the bye (with Oakland apparently being an exception, though an understandable one. If they can't stop one play, keep running it). That was obvious in both Denver games, against Washington, and in what I saw vs. San Diego.

Makes a difference.

Not suggesting that ALL of JC's production comes from the playcalls... it does take OL blocking to assist greatly in this. It does also involve reading the lanes and breaking tackles.

So you are admitting his running production isn't likely Alex related then since it's actually declined, yes? I'd credit Alex and Andy with the catches, but Charles has always been a dynamic runner no matter how shitty of a coach, QB, or line we've had.

You should be a politician.

You're completely full of shit.

LMAO

bah..... you're just being deliberately obtuse and difficult.. no problem. No one's ever heard of a QB that reads a D and changes things up. :thumb:

IIRC, and I usually don't, but even in the Oakland game he threw it downfield when we weren't running screens to death for TDs.