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Rain Man 06-16-2021 07:59 PM

I think what we're concluding is that housing prices are spiking everywhere for a combination of reasons.

Low interest rates certainly play a part in that. Delayed demand plays a part as millennials didn't move into the market on a predictable basis and are now starting to catch up. Millennials are a big new population of buyers. Some people may have more cash due to stimulus stuff, though that's probably not significant. And I think there's still a lingering shortage of housing dating all the way back from the 2009-2010 recession. Investment funds are screwing over the American Dream by buying houses over what real people can pay. AirBnB corporations are buying houses so they can be fake hotels without paying taxes. Combine them all and you get this.

lewdog 06-16-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15710846)
Its almost as if some alarms bell should be going off, but I'm sure everything is fine

We bought our house 7 years ago and it’s doubled in value. We could currently rent this house for 2.5x our monthly mortgage payment.

None of that adds up to me and it shouldn’t be this high.

Monticore 06-16-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15710889)
We bought our house 7 years ago and it’s doubled in value. We could currently rent this house for 2.5x our monthly mortgage payment.

None of that adds up to me and it shouldn’t be this high.

It’s going to crash .

Buehler445 06-16-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15710716)
Life in Tampa or wherever in Floridastan must be good.

Where has housing prices increased the most in the last few years at least in terms of percentage?

On a percentage basis I bet it’s some place in Colorado. I have a landlord in Golden. What he’s telling me explodes my brain.

lewdog 06-16-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 15710908)
It’s going to crash .

Well at this point a good 25-40% correction is absolutely warranted. And crashes will happen too as housing prices are cyclical like everything else.

Bugeater 06-16-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15710914)
On a percentage basis I bet it’s some place in Colorado. I have a landlord in Golden. What he’s telling me explodes my brain.

We paid $223k for our place a little over 2 years ago. I'm fairly certain I could get close to $300k for it right now. Part of it is because it had a horrid kitchen that has since been renovated, but even without that it would probably be an easy $280k. And that's here in freaking Omaha...where nobody really wants to live.

Rain Man 06-16-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15710914)
On a percentage basis I bet it’s some place in Colorado. I have a landlord in Golden. What he’s telling me explodes my brain.

We've certainly seen big increases. From what other people are saying, it may not be larger percentage-wise, but most Colorado homeowners are starting from a high base value. It adds up to a lot of appreciation.

JohnnyHammersticks 06-16-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15710914)
On a percentage basis I bet it’s some place in Colorado. I have a landlord in Golden. What he’s telling me explodes my brain.

The increases over the last couple years in metro Denver have been fairly substantial. Bought my house in Westminster in Fall of 2014 for $415k. Per Zillow the current value is $697.5k and per Realtor.com it's $751.6k. My neighbor just sold his for $750k.

If I didn't like the house so much/hate moving so much I'd sell it asap and pray for a big correction, but with the Fed printing money like a teenager with a new credit card I'm not sure that's going to happen anytime soon anyway. It would only take 30 more ounces of gold at current gold prices to buy my house at its current value than it would've taken to buy it for $415k in 2014 using Oct 2014 gold prices - so it's more the dollar losing value than it is my house gaining value.

BigRedChief 06-16-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15710846)
Its almost as if some alarms bell should be going off, but I'm sure everything is fine

this housing boom is different from 2008.

eDave 06-16-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15710309)
Where did he say he's abandoning crypto?

I assumed since he cashed it in and is now letting it rot in the bank. My bad. He's so lackadaisical with his finances that it frustrates me sometimes. :)

Rain Man 06-16-2021 10:53 PM

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I downloaded a data set here that's apparently Zillow's year over year home sales prices for 2020 versus 2019.

https://sparkrental.com/hottest-real-estate-markets/

Check it out and see how your county is doing.

There's some inconsistency because you may have houses in different prices ranges selling from year to year, but it gives us a good feel. The thing that strikes me is that the appreciation isn't as high as I would expect at all. Denver posted a 6.71 percent increase according to this data, which is a great number, but anecdotally I was thinking it would be double that based on what I see in the market. The median county is about 4.45 percent.

Bugeater 06-16-2021 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15711049)
I downloaded a data set here that's apparently Zillow's year over year home sales prices for 2020 versus 2019.

https://sparkrental.com/hottest-real-estate-markets/

Check it out and see how your county is doing.

There's some inconsistency because you may have houses in different prices ranges selling from year to year, but it gives us a good feel. The thing that strikes me is that the appreciation isn't as high as I would expect at all. Denver posted a 6.71 percent increase according to this data, which is a great number, but anecdotally I was thinking it would be double that based on what I see in the market. The median county is about 4.45 percent.

I want to know wtf is going on in Antelope County, NE that warrants a 15.49% increase.

eDave 06-16-2021 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15711035)
this housing boom is different from 2008.

My best friend does very well in real estate out here. His most recent deal to go under contract the other day was for one guy, two houses, over $1m each, cash, and was simply able to outbid other suiters. Chicago guy who will be snowbirding.

This boom is a supply and demand issue that is likely to linger until new home starts get going again, when lumber costs come back down.

Phoenix inventory sucks right now for anything less than $500K. Probably better in Lewdog's area since nobody wants to live out there.

Rain Man 06-16-2021 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 15711055)
I want to know wtf is going on in Antelope County, NE that warrants a 15.49% increase.

I'm guessing that a person must have moved there.

lewdog 06-17-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15711059)
My best friend does very well in real estate out here. His most recent deal to go under contract the other day was for one guy, two houses, over $1m each, cash, and was simply able to outbid other suiters. Chicago guy who will be snowbirding.

This boom is a supply and demand issue that is likely to linger until new home starts get going again, when lumber costs come back down.

Phoenix inventory sucks right now for anything less than $500K. Probably betting in Lewdog's area since nobody wants to live out there.

Living in the ghetto ain’t glamorous but it sure is cheap!


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