I agree. I can't imagine doing that to a child. An occasional swat with the hand to get his attention or a spanking with your hand should be enough. In AP's case the kid was 4 and he is a professional athlete. If you can't get the child to do what you want without resorting to something like that there is something seriously wrong with you and you shouldn't be raising kids.

Wouldn't argue that at all. I would argue that he is not likely a criminal.

That's where the difference of opinion becomes glaring in this case.

I would argue that most pediatricians would disagree with you.

I'm glad society has continued to evolve. That's living man!

In my dads generation, husbands beat their wives and society looked the other way. Kids that came from economically middle of the road families didn't have same chance for university as they do today.
ANd on and on....

Dude, the statistics are clear. Fewer teen marriages = moral decay. It's not that hard.

No Marcellus. It doesn't.

Right and 49% of the country was on welfare and didn't pay any taxes too right?

Keep whistling past the grave yard.

If you think things are just fine, we will have to agree to disagree.

Growing dependency on govt hand outs, fewer people paying taxes to fund them equals what?

Obviously we are getting off track, I was simply responding to the large number of "this isn't 1965 anymore" comments because I think that in itself is a seriously lame argument.

Not everything we did in 1965 (before I was born BTW) was wrong or has no merit today. I am not an old fuddy dutty, I ma 43 years old for Christ sake. I just see some disturning trends and feel our liberal shift has created much of it.

One more example, where I run a manufacturing plant we have a multitude of jobs paying $17-$18 an hour with great benefits and have a hard time finding people willing to work for a living. That's insane.

I'm done. I need to get back to work myself, people on welfare are depending on me.

what pisses me off more than anything is AP's grin in the mugshot....what the **** do you have to be so chipper about bud?

Outside of the fact that the "don't pay taxes" ignores all taxes that aren't income taxes (because they don't make enough to get taxed... dirty poor people, why don't they just buy more money) so they pay state, local, sales, s.s., medicare, and others taxes... 91 percent of social safety net goes to retired, disabled, or households with working members, not able bodied Americans refusing to work.

You shouldn't base your worldview off of b.s.

/and your views on child abuse would be laughable if it wasn't a child being so negatively affected.

There was a lady in Orange City, IA that ran a daycare. She threw a 4 yr old down because she refused to take off her jacket and killed her.

Talk about a smirk...
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I would be a crying, blubbering mess.

I agree with Marcellus 100%. If you think there isn't anything wrong with all the lazy a** kids in their 20's still living with parents, then you are part of the problem. Those are probably the same kids that have never been disciplined in their life.

Yeah, probably. Good post.

LMAO

The world is changing around me and I'm scared and confused.

Things are just different! It used to be so much better!

/part of the problem