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Bowser 07-30-2016 06:38 PM

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Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12343400)
This season has become an installment in the Final Destination series

No shit man...really hoping Wade doesn't need TJ. If so he's done all if next season?

siberian khatru 07-30-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12343439)
No shit man...really hoping Wade doesn't need TJ. If so he's done all if next season?

12-18 months

Nightfyre 07-30-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12343439)
No shit man...really hoping Wade doesn't need TJ. If so he's done all if next season?

It would pretty much means we wouldn't exercise the club option on him.

Anyong Bluth 07-30-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12343232)
Some more than others, for sure.


Again, if it was such BS, you don't get those defensive responses at all. The proper reaction to Dan's tweet was Rany's (agreeing with the obvious truth of the statement and still not giving a shit about it).

Proper response?

On twitter.

That's cute

Al Bundy 07-30-2016 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12343232)
Some more than others, for sure.


Again, if it was such BS, you don't get those defensive responses at all. The proper reaction to Dan's tweet was Rany's (agreeing with the obvious truth of the statement and still not giving a shit about it).

You are so full of shit. **** your roided up Blue Jays.

Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12343446)
12-18 months

Oof...

Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 12343453)
It would pretty much means we wouldn't exercise the club option on him.

Yep...maybe we can grab Holland and Wade after their injuries

Mr. Laz 07-30-2016 07:02 PM

I thought Eibner was supposed to have some potential.

Nightfyre 07-30-2016 07:03 PM

One thing we could do with Davis is offer him an extension on top of his club option, with a discount on 2018.

Chiefspants 07-30-2016 07:03 PM

If you were told that Wade would be facing TJ after Ned put him back out in the ninth against the Jays, would you still make the move?

I've been thinking about that while packing up my apartment today.

KevB 07-30-2016 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12343408)
Paying the pied piper for back to back World Series.

That's BS. We f'ing suffered through 25 years of shit for the last 3 years. We deserved it, to the extent any team/fans deserve anything. I expected some bad luck to come our way this year, but this is ridiculous.

TomBarndtsTwin 07-30-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12343408)
Paying the pied piper for back to back World Series.

And worth every damn red cent!


Since 2000, only 2 other teams in Major League Baseball (Phils and Yanks) have accomplished what the Royals have done in the last 2 years; back to back pennants and a World Title!

They may have not been an all time great team, but their recent run is among the best baseball has seen since the millennium turned over.


So f%#k all the haters! That is all.

Al Bundy 07-30-2016 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 12343494)
And worth every damn red cent!


Since 2000, only 2 other teams in Major League Baseball (Phils and Yanks) have accomplished what the Royals have done in the last 2 years; back to back pennants and a World Title!

They may have not been an all time great team, but their recent run is among the best baseball has seen since the millennium turned over.


So f%#k all the haters! That is all.

That Yankees team was full of PED's.

Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12343493)
That's BS. We f'ing suffered through 25 years of shit for the last 3 years. We deserved it, to the extent any team/fans deserve anything. I expected some bad luck to come our way this year, but this is ridiculous.

I agree...what a train wreck season. Hope 2017 they can get back in the playoffs

Coach 07-30-2016 07:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Geezuz!! Billy Butler just came off my shit list. Dude talked shit to Gimenez then yelled at him after 450 ft hmr 😂 <a href="https://t.co/KZxvMgd3dO">pic.twitter.com/KZxvMgd3dO</a></p>&mdash; ☠ yani ☠ (@bayani13) <a href="https://twitter.com/bayani13/status/759551844553076736">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 07:30 PM

@RobertMurrayFRS: Teams with scouts watching Jeremy Hellickson's start: Pirates, Yankees, Indians, Rangers, Marlins, Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals, Royals.

Um why?

doomy3 07-30-2016 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12343478)
If you were told that Wade would be facing TJ after Ned put him back out in the ninth against the Jays, would you still make the move?

I've been thinking about that while packing up my apartment today.

Yes. Without a doubt

Great Expectations 07-30-2016 07:34 PM

How does LC connection have a green rep meter?

KChiefs1 07-30-2016 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 12343366)
Honestly I'd go full white flag at this point. Play Salvy and Cain 3-4x per week, max. They'll never do it, but that's what I kinda wish they would do. Rest up for next year



Yeah this year has went to hell.
Get ready for 2017.



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KChiefs1 07-30-2016 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12343439)
No shit man...really hoping Wade doesn't need TJ. If so he's done all if next season?



Bye bye Wader.



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Anyong Bluth 07-30-2016 07:48 PM

I for one am putting out the positive juju that he won't need surgery.

Coach 07-30-2016 07:52 PM

Calm down. It said MRI. Said arm, did NOT say elbow. Could be a MRI on the forearm that he was previously having trouble with.

Anyong Bluth 07-30-2016 08:03 PM

Could it be possible it's been requested by a potential trade partner to ensure he checks out if a deal is made?

Yes, I know it's probably unlikely.

Prison Bitch 07-30-2016 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12343360)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Awful news for the Royals: Wade Davis is headed back to Kansas City for an MRI on his arm, source tells Yahoo Sports.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/759538582751178752">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Who the Royals will be receiving at the 2016 trade deadline?

Our long lost friend, Jack Shit.


Ended up being a great move!

Bowser 07-30-2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12343571)
Could it be possible it's been requested by a potential trade partner to ensure he checks out if a deal is made?

Yes, I know it's probably unlikely.

He'd have the MRI done and the results forwarded to the interested team in the next three hours if so, correct?

WhawhaWhat 07-30-2016 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12343525)
Bye bye Wader.



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If he does have TJ surgery, it would cost him $7.5 mil after the buyout.

siberian khatru 07-30-2016 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 12343550)
Calm down. It said MRI. Said arm, did NOT say elbow. Could be a MRI on the forearm that he was previously having trouble with.

Forearm is often indicator of UCL

suzzer99 07-30-2016 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12343397)
I am going to watch my 2016 World Series Blu-Ray collection and pretend that it's tonight's game.

I would play good money for a spliced-together fantasy video where Salvy hits a homerun in game 7, and then show a big celebration like we won the WS.

C3HIEF3S 07-30-2016 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12343623)
I would play good money for a spliced-together fantasy video where Salvy hits a homerun in game 7, and then show a big celebration like we won the WS.

I meant to put 2015. God damn this year is messing with me. :cuss::cuss::cuss:

lewdog 07-30-2016 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12343629)
I meant to put 2015. God damn this year is messing with me. :cuss::cuss::cuss:

I was confused but didn't want to correct you. Figured you were drunk and I've probably typed worse on this site with no one saying a word about it.

Jerok 07-30-2016 09:03 PM

Any chance we are sending Wade back at request of another team who wants an MRI before completing a trade deal?

Nightfyre 07-30-2016 09:13 PM

Looking at rebuilding the rotation in 2017:

We have three known commodities coming in: Duffy, Ventura and Kennedy
Coming off the DL, we have Vargas and Minor
Borderline options already on the roster will be Young and Flynn
Potential call-ups include Mills, Almonte, Strahm and Zimmer

The club will decline Medlen's mutual option
Volquez will decline his mutual option

It seems like if you acquired a number 2 type, the rotation would fall into place nicely. Maybe they could look at Cashner in FA if they really want to splash the pot.

Another option to consider is dealing Herrera for an MLB ready starter - if the Dodgers were willing to deal Urias, for example (Herrera is more valuable than Davis both in control and contract dollars). Then splash the pot next year on a premium reliever. Take chances on rebound candidates like Storen or Cecil and hope you capture lightning in a bottle.

Anyone else have any brilliant ideas?

KChiefs1 07-30-2016 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 12343676)
Any chance we are sending Wade back at request of another team who wants an MRI before completing a trade deal?



That's possible.




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C3HIEF3S 07-30-2016 09:41 PM

If there is anything good to come from today, it's that Wade is not having elbow trouble as speculated:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost said Wade Davis is experiencing same issues he had before in his forearm. He&#39;ll get an MRI tomorrow at 8 a.m.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/759594460992774144">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned said Wade Davis&#39; injury is in the same spot as before. Club and Davis want to see what it is. They didnt MRI last time. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/759594625971527680">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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siberian khatru 07-30-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12343774)
If there is anything good to come from today, it's that Wade is not having elbow trouble as speculated:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost said Wade Davis is experiencing same issues he had before in his forearm. He&#39;ll get an MRI tomorrow at 8 a.m.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/759594460992774144">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned said Wade Davis&#39; injury is in the same spot as before. Club and Davis want to see what it is. They didnt MRI last time. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/759594625971527680">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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C3HIEF3S 07-30-2016 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12343783)

Welp, the more you know. Things may just continue to suck harder and harder after all ROFL.

KChiefs1 07-30-2016 09:49 PM

Indians get Lucroy.


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Anyong Bluth 07-30-2016 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12343792)
Indians get Lucroy.


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ABC News is on top of this:

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duncan_idaho 07-30-2016 10:11 PM

The trade deadline gods really hate the royals. Even going back to the year David DeJesus got hurt right before the deadline in 2010 or whatever year that was.

Believe Ryan Kalish and Nosh Reddick were the names that were discussed for him before that, too.


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Bowser 07-30-2016 10:11 PM

Isn't that Lucroy in the stands watching Hopkins make a silly catch?

Prison Bitch 07-30-2016 10:12 PM

Lol lol


Rangers were 1-6 before they met us. Who they've now ass-raped 5-1.

Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 10:12 PM

@JonHeyman: brewers have a deal with indians with lucroy going to cleveland, pending player approval. @Ken_Rosenthal an @JeffPassan 1st

mr. tegu 07-30-2016 10:49 PM

Just shut Davis down. No reason to put him back out there at this point. Let's get him some rest and have him ready and fresh for next season.

We should make Young the closer. We don't seem to have a need for one anymore so that way we won't see Young pitch.

Deberg_1990 07-30-2016 11:19 PM

Twins might leap us in the division standings before end of the season.

:facepalm:

Bowser 07-31-2016 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12343917)
Twins might leap us in the division standings before end of the season.

:facepalm:

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Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 06:43 AM

Indians going for it all....

@Ken_Rosenthal: BREAKING: Andrew Miller to #Indians.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 06:44 AM

@Buster_ESPN: Yankees expected to get Indians prospects Frazier and Sheffield and others in the trade for Andrew Miller.

@Ken_Rosenthal: No word yet on status of Lucroy trade. Possible #Indians getting both him and Miller. Possible Lucroy deal falling apart.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 06:50 AM

@ChrisCarlinSNY: If Sheffield and Frazier in the deal, Yanks get Indians #1 & #5 prospects.

@Joelsherman1: With pen strength broken up have to assume #Yankees now open for business on everything Beltran, McCann, Gardner, Eovaldi, Pineda, Nova

bricks 07-31-2016 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 12343698)
Looking at rebuilding the rotation in 2017:

We have three known commodities coming in: Duffy, Ventura and Kennedy
Coming off the DL, we have Vargas and Minor
Borderline options already on the roster will be Young and Flynn
Potential call-ups include Mills, Almonte, Strahm and Zimmer

The club will decline Medlen's mutual option
Volquez will decline his mutual option

It seems like if you acquired a number 2 type, the rotation would fall into place nicely. Maybe they could look at Cashner in FA if they really want to splash the pot.

Another option to consider is dealing Herrera for an MLB ready starter - if the Dodgers were willing to deal Urias, for example (Herrera is more valuable than Davis both in control and contract dollars). Then splash the pot next year on a premium reliever. Take chances on rebound candidates like Storen or Cecil and hope you capture lightning in a bottle.

Anyone else have any brilliant ideas?

Don't take chances on Drew Storen. He sucks bad.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 07:08 AM

Going to be very hard to win the division next season

PunkinDrublic 07-31-2016 07:16 AM

Let's not overrate the Indians. They've had great teams on paper before that failed big time.

Al Bundy 07-31-2016 07:26 AM

This is what the Royals get for 2014 and 2015.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 07:30 AM

@Joelsherman1: #Yankees also getting 2 RH relief prospects: Ben Heller and J.P. Feyereisen #Indians

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 08:02 AM

Will the Royals be a WC team at best next season?

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 08:25 AM

Noooooooooooo

@FlannyMLB: #Royals have released outfielder Travis Snider

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 08:44 AM

@FlannyMLB: Ned said they should find out Wade Davis' MRI results around 11:30 this morning https://twitter.com/shizzyrocks/stat...56758873022470

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 08:57 AM

Lmao wow!

@Haudricourt: Jonathan Lucroy has exercised his no-trade clause and vetoed trade from #Brewers to Indians. Details to come.

Coach 07-31-2016 09:18 AM

I don't understand that. Why would you veto it if you have a very good chance of getting into the playoffs with the Indians, than you would as a Brewer?

Edit: To get rid of the club option, that would be understandable, but good luck, no team is going to remove it.

Coach 07-31-2016 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12343612)
Forearm is often indicator of UCL

True, but not always. It could be a strained forearm for all we know.

On the other side of the discussion, if it does result an TJS, it could be in a way, a blessing in disguise that I believe the Royals have a club option on Wade, and the Royals probably would decline that option, thus freeing up 7.5 million, while having to give out a 2.5 million buyout (Similar to what just happened to Holland).

jimidollar 07-31-2016 09:21 AM

Damn, these guys fell 25,000 feet and missed the net.

WhawhaWhat 07-31-2016 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 12344174)
I don't understand that. Why would you veto it if you have a very good chance of getting into the playoffs with the Indians, than you would as a Brewer?

Edit: To get rid of the club option, that would be understandable, but good luck, no team is going to remove it.

Looks like he wanted the Indians to decline his option for next year in order to wave the no-trade.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 09:32 AM

@JeffPassan: Sources: Jonathan Lucroy wanted Indians to rip up 2017 club option to get him to waive no-trade clause. Understandably, Cleveland said no.

KChiefs1 07-31-2016 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12344082)
@ChrisCarlinSNY: If Sheffield and Frazier in the deal, Yanks get Indians #1 & #5 prospects.


@Joelsherman1: #Yankees also getting 2 RH relief prospects: Ben Heller and J.P. Feyereisen


Damn the Yankees are raking in the prospects!

They easily have the #1 farm system now.




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Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 09:37 AM

@JonHeyman: indians have "moved on." lucroy will not be an indian. there will be no reworking.

Nightfyre 07-31-2016 09:39 AM

Too bad about waders arm. The timing could literally not be worse. These hauls the relievers are commanding is staggering. Herrera must be worth a mint.

Jerok 07-31-2016 09:42 AM

Bold prediction: Royals have a slump season next year due to lack of pitching, trade Cain Esky Hosmer and Herrera for a very nice haul of prospects, make the world series again in 2020.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 09:52 AM

@FlannyMLB: Source: Kendrys Morales does not have a no-trade clause. Astros, Rangers may have interest, though Rangers seek pitching more. #Royals

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 09:55 AM

@jcrasnick: #Tigers have discussed the usual suspects: Hellickson, Miley, Volquez, Hector Santiago, Erasmo Ramirez. It's all 4s and 5s.

C3HIEF3S 07-31-2016 10:45 AM

**** **** **** ****
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> place Wade Davis on DL with a flexor strain and recall LHP Matt Strahm from AA.</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/759791646183608320">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is what Vargas had, came back from after like a month and a half, then promptly blew his elbow out 2 starts later.

Al Bundy 07-31-2016 10:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Davis has been placed on the DL with a flexor strain and LHP Matt Strahm has been recalled from NW... <a href="https://t.co/Sf1woTPvzb">https://t.co/Sf1woTPvzb</a></p>&mdash; Sports Radio 810 WHB (@SportsRadio810) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsRadio810/status/759791803268759552">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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WhawhaWhat 07-31-2016 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12344191)
@JeffPassan: Sources: Jonathan Lucroy wanted Indians to rip up 2017 club option to get him to waive no-trade clause. Understandably, Cleveland said no.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/BNightengale">@bnightengale</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Indians?src=hash">#Indians</a> told Lucroy he would be backup C/1B/DH in 17, with Gomes regular C. Team says it simply made Lucroy no promises.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/759793199116328961">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 10:52 AM

@rustindodd: Ned Yost says Wade Davis's MRI revealed a Grade 1 flexor strain. "The elbow looked fine," Ned said. Royals hope he's back in two weeks.

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 10:53 AM

Just shut Wade Down.
.they will need him next season

C3HIEF3S 07-31-2016 10:53 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost says Wade Davis&#39;s MRI revealed a Grade 1 flexor strain. &quot;The elbow looked fine,&quot; Ned said. Royals hope he&#39;s back in two weeks.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/759793687660376064">July 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Anyone recall what Vargas' grade was for his flexor strain?

Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 10:53 AM

@goldbergkc: 24-year old LHP Matt Strahm was 21st round draft pick in '12. 3-8, 3.43 this year in AA with 107K & 23 BB. Missed 2013 with TJ surgery

C3HIEF3S 07-31-2016 10:54 AM

I don't give a shit if Davis' elbow is clean, so was Vargas':
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jason Vargas said an examination revealed no damage to his UCL. He hopes he can play catch next week. Hopes he will only miss a few starts.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughTimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughTimes/status/596763190383419392">May 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Sure-Oz 07-31-2016 10:55 AM

@FlannyMLB: Ned also said MRI showed Davis' elbow was clean. #Royals

mr. tegu 07-31-2016 11:02 AM

Let's just shut him down. There is no reason to risk anything. After all of the extra innings he has pitched he needs to just fully recover. I wouldn't mind limiting Herrera either.

Why Not? 07-31-2016 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12344331)
Let's just shut him down. There is no reason to risk anything. After all of the extra innings he has pitched he needs to just fully recover. I wouldn't mind limiting Herrera either.



Yep. And as I advocated for yesterday, I would rest players like Salvy and LoCain on a regular basis. Let's compensate for the long haul of the past two years. No use wearing everybody out to chase 75 wins


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