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Setsuna 01-01-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9264502)
See, for me those two statements fail the smell test.

This widget is EXACTLY what you need, I unequivocally guarantee it.

What if it isn't?

Oh well, then go get something else.

Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

B_Ambuehl 01-01-2013 02:04 PM

Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Saccopoo 01-01-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9264515)
Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are
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Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft.
Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

Saccopoo 01-01-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 9264532)
Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Don't you have to go clean out the commodes in Foxboro today or something?

58-4ever 01-01-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9264515)
Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

I agree with QB or bust, but there are a few elite players in this draft. Way too much speculation before the combine and end of bowl season.

Setsuna 01-01-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9264536)
Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are

Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

I admit I only know of Mingo and Richardson. I suppose they have the potential. But having the look isn't enough.

Bowser 01-01-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 9264532)
Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Why, why, WHY are the fans of this team so absolutely petrified of developing a quarterback of their own? Afaid we might have a couple of "down years"?

RealSNR 01-01-2013 02:16 PM

Someone should put together a lowlight video of every college QB so we don't have to draft a QB!

Pfew! That was scary! We almost had to take a risk on something!

58-4ever 01-01-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9264536)
Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are

Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

Beat me to it. Good post.

B_Ambuehl 01-01-2013 02:17 PM

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Are you ****ing kidding me?

Don't you have to go clean out the commodes in Foxboro today or something?
I don't know who you have me confused with but:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200220

and

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203348

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He threw to a 2nd option exactly twice that entire video. Playing out of the spread with that offensive line and those receivers creating space and running with the football after the catch makes him look decent, but I don't think I've seen someone consistently stare down an initial read so hard. He's not gonna be able to get away with that to the same degree on this ball club.
How wrong I was. :) Yall wanted the ****er(s), now it appears you're stuck with the worst of the worst. hahaha

chop 01-01-2013 02:18 PM

I'm not sure that Geno Smith is worthy of the #1 pick but I do remember people saying similar stuff about RGIII last year. Many people thought RGIII was going to drop to the Chiefs pick at this time last year. The closer the draft got the higher RGIII was rated. I'm not saying that Geno is going to move up the same as RGIII but there may be another QB that everyone falls in love with later.

DomerNKC 01-01-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat (Post 9263860)
On what was probably Geno's third worst game of the season, he went 16/24 for 197 yards and 2 TDs with 0 INTs.

He wasn't quite as accurate as usual and didn't have much success downfield (in part because of Syracuse's pass rush), but he still made very few mistakes.

Given more time to pass and what we've seen of his downfield accuracy in other games, I'm still fully aboard the Geno wagon.

dont forget he puked all over himself and caused his team to suffer two, count them TWO safetys in one game! The biggest game of his career and he laid an egg against the MIGHTY SYRACUSE and their incredible 8-5 record. National powerhouse team. Lets go jump on a guy that folds in the sight of a big game. Hell going 5-0 to start the season created enough pressure to push him to a 2-5 finish. At least his defense could be blamed for a lot of that flame out. His collapse in the bowl game was proof of HIS ineptitude. We need to pass on geno "joey harrington" smith. He would be worth the third round pick he is worthy of because he has upside and with some seasoning could be a decent backup. Of course he will probably throw a grapefruit 80 yards from his knees during private workouts and people will go crazy like they
did with jamarcus. Geno #1 overall is a flipping joke. I have no clue who should be #1 at this point, but geno isnt it.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-01-2013 02:24 PM

Ambuehl not being on our side is a bonus guys. He's Como Jr.

SAUTO 01-01-2013 02:24 PM

Jamarcus didn't throw a grapefruit 80 yards from his knees.

What about Geno reminds you of Harrington?

did teo ever make a mistake this year?

Miss a tackle? Flow himself out of a play? Trip and fall down?


Yes on all. **** him e can't draft a player that ever made a mistake
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B_Ambuehl 01-01-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9264570)
Why, why, WHY are the fans of this team so absolutely petrified of developing a quarterback of their own? Afaid we might have a couple of "down years"?

There are better ways of managing the draft that could get you a QB without spending the #1 pick on one who isn't worth it.


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