Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9731015)

I'm not a big Kubiak fan but the Texans were 10-6 and 12-4 in '11 and '12 and won their division both seasons. I'm not going to put Reid's 8-8 and 4-12 teams over that.

This shouldn't be hard to figure out: I'm not a fan of Reid. I've said since even before he was hired that I think he's a coach who's been on a steady decline. The hope now is that he can buck that trend and turn both his personal fortunes and the franchise's around.

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9731038)

This is about right. Andy with Brees > Payton though.

Really a shame that McNabb played that Superbowl with a hangover. Andy coulda won that one.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9731129)

Coaches I'd take for sure over Andy Reid:

Jim Harbaugh
John Harbaugh
Belichick
Mike Tomlin

Coaches he's on par with and would be a toss up:
Mike Smith
Mike McCarthy
Sean Payton

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9731859)

No way.

Reid/Smith maybe.

Not a chance he is the same as SP or MM.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9731940)

Aaron Rodgers would give Romeo Crennel 10-12 win seasons.

And Payton may be better than Reid, but not by that much IMO.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9730538)

I was thinking about this yesterday. I think we can say we have a top 10 coach. Havent been able to say that since Marty.

In no particular order here are the guys who are better head coaches than Reid:

John Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh
Tom Coughlin
Sean Payton
B.B.


I would probably put Reid behind those guys.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9730576)

John Fox?
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9730577)

I know this is probably not a popular position, but I think Pete Carroll is a fantastic coach. He took a relatively unpopular team that existed on nobody's radar and turned them into a loaded powerhouse. Even before Russell Wilson, I thought most of his moves have been really smart.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9730604)

In no particular order, coaches I'd put above Reid:

Bill Belichick
Pete Carroll
Tom Coughlin
John Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh
Gary Kubiak
Mike McCarthey
Sean Payton
Mike Shanahan
Mike Smith
Mike Tomlin

Roughly on par:
Jeff Fisher
John Fox
Jason Garrett
Marvin Lewis
Chuck Pagano (could move up the list)
Rex Ryan

There aren't many I'd put below him:
Dennis Allen
Leslie Frazier
Mike Munchak
Joe Philbin
Ron Rivera
Greg Schiano
Jim Schwartz

One thing that skews the list is the number of new coaches, who are impossible to rank at this point:
Bruce Arians
Gus Bradley
Rob Chudzinski
Chip Kelley
Doug Marrone
Mike McCoy
Marc Trestman

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 9732147)

LOL @ Kubiak being better than Reid. AFC South fans look at him like we looked at Norv. Just thanking God for every contract extension. That dude is just wasting talent.

Also, John Fox is a decent coach, but kneeling in that playoff game last year is one of the worst coaching decisions I've ever seen. I know one call can't define a career, but that one comes close.