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ROYC75 01-18-2005 08:26 AM

This is sad news, but it is what I expected of him. With all the coaches and staff only signed for the next year, I see why DV did this.

As a coach, who wants to come to KC for 1 year, a year where there is a good chance to meet failure ?

old_geezer 01-18-2005 08:34 AM

I might also add that this is object lesson #1 in why it's not a good idea to hire your friend and good buddy to be head coach. If Marty or Gun pulled this same crap they'd be gone already, but Carl can't (or won"t) fire his good buddy Dick.

Red Dawg 01-18-2005 08:46 AM

The players need to change, not the coaches. No coach teaches not to turn your head around and look for the ball. Or to blow assignments. We need players that play better and understand the defense and where they are suppose to be at.

tomahawk kid 01-18-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer
I might also add that this is object lesson #1 in why it's not a good idea to hire your friend and good buddy to be head coach. If Marty or Gun pulled this same crap they'd be gone already, but Carl can't (or won"t) fire his good buddy Dick.

Firing is too good for this gray haired old fuck.

His complete lack of respect and accountability to and for this franchise, along with its fans, deserves a savage fucking beating and a one way ticket back to his p#ssy a$$ ranch in PA.

He's done absolutely nothing for this organization.

And to think I was excited when he landed here. This fuck is more worried about his "friends" on the coaching staff than winning a championship - its that simple. I'm glad that we've become a haven for the "limber dick club" of NFL coaches. It really makes me want to go out and pay even more cash for tickets and merchandise (sarcasm).

The sooner we get "Dick" and his loser buddy Carl out of this town, the better.

What a complete b!tch.

DaWolf 01-18-2005 08:49 AM

OK fine Dick, then if this is the case, admit that you guys were dumbasses for sticking with Bartee and drafting Battle and go out and get new corners if these guys are such excellent coaches.

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Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No.
And here I was thinking that a coach is SUPPOSED to teach fundamentals and get his lessons across in a way where the guy won't be breaking down fundamentally time and time again. I guess this is an admission that this is the DUMBEST group of DB's in the history of the league too.

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“Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said.
I'm sure he also wasn't responsible for the last place defense the Rams fielded the very next year either, once John Bunting left as the co-defensive coordinator. At least Martz had the balls to get rid of the guy.

All I know is this: in 1999 the Rams front office stepped in and forced Vermeil's hand to change his staff. Since Carl isn't doing the same thing here and forcing Vermeil's hand, it is ultimately Carl's responsibility. So Carl, you damn well better have the offseason of your life and get these brilliant coaches some players, otherwise you're gonna be sending your dream coach home with a broken legacy instead of riding off into the sunset...

htismaqe 01-18-2005 08:50 AM

so I take it everybody is now ready to take seriously what I posted LAST week, from Holthus?

htismaqe 01-18-2005 08:52 AM

Vermeil = Gunther

kc rush 01-18-2005 08:55 AM

How many times did we hear Dick say that they failed as coaches to prepare the players to play? Fans and the media were too tough on the players, because they have talent. Dick saw it on the practice field every day.

Now that it means that his friends may have to go, it is the players fault for not being talented enough.

Which is it Dick? Either way changes need to be made and Dick doesn't seem to have the balls to do it. He doesn't want to move outside of his comfort zone to build something truly great and Carl doesn't want to upset his buddy. Hooray for mediocrity.

I wonder what Gunther has to say about all of this. I wonder what Lamar has to say.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-18-2005 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13
“They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability."

Well maayyyyyybe Dick is finally admitting that the players aren't good enough. Now if we could just get him to believe that he and the defensive coaches aren't good enough we might start getting somewhere.

morphius 01-18-2005 09:09 AM

If after every loss you say that you as a coaching staff need to do a better job at coaching the players, well, who is the real problem?

Oh well, I can almost guarntee that the reason that DV doesn't want to make any changes is because he knows it is his last year here and doesn't think he would be able to get anyone good to come in here for what is basically a one year job.

Gunther and Carl need to step in and tell DV that they gave him a chance to do it, but they need to make the changes anyway.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-18-2005 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius
If after every loss you say that you as a coaching staff need to do a better job at coaching the players, well, who is the real problem?

Oh well, I can almost guarntee that the reason that DV doesn't want to make any changes is because he knows it is his last year here and doesn't think he would be able to get anyone good to come in here for what is basically a one year job.

Gunther and Carl need to step in and tell DV that they gave him a chance to do it, but they need to make the changes anyway.

100% agree. He had to be forced in St. Louis and it won them a Super -Bowl. It needs to be done here.

Dick would make a great offensive coordinator.

brent102fire 01-18-2005 09:23 AM

Shouldn't Gunther have a say in who the defensive coaches are going to be? There was nothing said about how Gun feels and that frightens me a little bit :hmmm:

shaneo69 01-18-2005 09:25 AM

This just pisses me off. Every fucking time that Vermiel brings up a Super Bowl that him or one of his coaches won elsewhere, I just wanna fucking strangle him.

htismaqe 01-18-2005 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by beer me
100% agree. He had to be forced in St. Louis and it won them a Super -Bowl. It needs to be done here.

Dick would make a great offensive coordinator.

Dick would make a great RETIRED HEAD COACH.

Sure-Oz 01-18-2005 09:32 AM

I am glad this is dicks last year, i really hope we win it all and he goes out on top again but its time for another HC.


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