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Lzen 03-02-2005 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stinger
Keep in mind that Trotter did not START until after week 8.

He is given credit for playing 16 games because he was playing special teams.

So basically, Trotter would've gotten twice the tackles as Mitchell if he had played the whole year.

Wait a second. Wasn't Mitchell out a few games?

Mr. Laz 03-02-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTownChief
I agree, remarkably similar

# 54 Jeremiah Trotter
Position: MLB
Height: 6-1
Weight: 262

# 50 Kawika Mitchell
Position: MLB
Height: 6-1
Weight: 253

Trotter
Code:

Year        Team                          G        Total        Tckl        Ast        Sacks        Int        Yds        Avg        Lg        TD        P Def

2004        Philadelphia Eagles        16        69        60.0        9        1        0        0        0.0        0        0        1

Mitchell
Code:

Year        Team                          G        Total        Tckl        Ast        Sacks        Int        Yds        Avg        Lg        TD        P Def

2004        Kansas City Chiefs        15        72        58.0        14        1        0        0        0.0        0        0        3


yea.. until you take into account that around 8 of those games you show trotter as playing in weren't at MLB.

it played... but only on special teams


he only started the last half of the season at MLB

Phobia 03-02-2005 01:05 PM

I'd like to see the Chiefs pay any amount to get a LEADER on that side of the ball, I don't care if they gotta bring Brian Cox out of retirement.

An intense LEADER will mean something on that side of the ball, IMO.

The Bad Guy 03-02-2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
So basically, Trotter would've gotten twice the tackles as Mitchell if he had played the whole year.

Wait a second. Wasn't Mitchell out a few games?

If you've watched the Eagles play, you would realize that Trotter impacted far more plays than his tackle stats indicate.

I'm glad he had that DC experience because it humbled him. He's a really good player who is only 27 years old.

Iowanian 03-02-2005 01:06 PM

**Mitchell didn't start 16 games Either

DaKCMan AP 03-02-2005 01:06 PM

Mitchell - 12 start and 55 tackles in those starts

Trotter - 9 starts with 50 tackles in those starts

1 of the starts for Trotter was the last game of the year when most starters only played a little. He registered just 1 tackle in that game.

There's the difference in the numbers.

Mr. Laz 03-02-2005 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
**Mitchell didn't start 16 games Either

didnt he start 15 games ...

i think he missed 1 and 1/2 games in 2004

petegz28 03-02-2005 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Of course, the same can basically be said of Mitchell.

Mitchell started two games in like weeks 4 and 5 but had to leave early with soreness.

He didn't actually start at MLB until week 7.


And sadly that was after Beisel was hurt and couldn't start at MLB.

HolmeZz 03-02-2005 01:07 PM

Yeah, stats are irrelevant. Especially if you saw what Trotter did in the playoffs; he went nuts.

Wallcrawler 03-02-2005 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
If you've watched the Eagles play, you would realize that Trotter impacted far more plays than his tackle stats indicate.

I'm glad he had that DC experience because it humbled him. He's a really good player who is only 27 years old.


EXACTLY.

Kawika Mitchell doesnt come close to having the impact on the team that Trotter had with the Eagles.

Trotter was tackling the crap out of people, stuffing them in the backfield for losses, pumping up the crowd and screaming his head off, firing up his teammates.

Mitchells tackles were mostly after a 5-7 yard gain at the minimum, and after a couple of failed attempts to strip the football, he finally decided to go for the tackle.

KCTitus 03-02-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
I'm glad he had that DC experience because it humbled him. He's a really good player who is only 27 years old.

So you're hoping that Trotter with a fat new contract doesnt play like the last time he was sitting on a fat new contract. Tall order.

I'd like to hope you're right, we'll see on the field.

OldTownChief 03-02-2005 01:08 PM

At the risk of being in someones sig next year I'm going out on a limb to say Trotter's best years are behind him now and Kawika's are yet to come.

htismaqe 03-02-2005 01:08 PM

I just friggin hope this shit is true.

BigChiefFan 03-02-2005 01:09 PM

Guys if you are just using stats to compare the two you can make an argument for Mitchell, but let's be real. Trotter is a proven run-stuffing MLBer. Mitchell is all potential at this point.

HolmeZz 03-02-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTownChief
At the risk of being in someones sig next year I'm going out on a limb to say Trotter's best years are behind him now and Kawika's are yet to come.

That's golden. Doubt you'll live that down either.


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