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bricks 03-03-2005 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
Why not give the offense that has put up enormous numbers over the last 4 years the opportunity for a SB by getting stud defensive players even if we have to stretch the cap?
Exactly. I agree. Carl has failed miserably to do that. It showed last year when we standed pat. Let's face it Grob shoulda been gone 2 years ago, and, we failed there cause we kept him around. Along with that, re-signing all our scrubs on defense. There is nobody too blame except Carl and Dick. Their the reasons why we failed.

nmt1 03-03-2005 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
If they don't win a SuperBowl, then at least they took there best shot at it. I could live with that much more than KC bringing in and signing 2nd tier free agents so we can go 8-8 again in 2008.

You can believe what you like, but I think after:

Stenerud missing three field goals in the '71 Christmas Day playoff game.

A phantom holding call on Szott and Lowery hitting the cross bar on a game winning field goal.

Joe Montana banging his head against the turf in Buffalo.

Steve Bono completing more passes to the Colts than to his receivers in '95.

Lin Elliot

Elvis Grbac holding his hands over his ear holes on the last drive of the '97 playoff game against Denver.

The TD called back on Gonzalez in the '97 playoff game.

The _efense not forcing a freaking punt against Indy in '03.

...this city and the FANS do DESERVE another Superbowl.
Don't forget Carl drafting Blackledge.

HC_Chief 03-03-2005 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
If they don't win a SuperBowl, then at least they took there best shot at it. I could live with that much more than KC bringing in and signing 2nd tier free agents so we can go 8-8 again in 2008.
Nah, it's much <i>safer</i> to get a nice, cheap, 2nd/3rd tier FA in the latter stages of the FA period, and draft "reach", errr, "diamonds in the rough"-type players in the draft (because they're easier to sign). That way we can have a good cap number and be competitive. That's all we can ask for you know? Being competitive.


fuck that. If you never climb out on the limb, you'll never get the fruit.

tomahawk kid 03-03-2005 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nmt1
Don't forget Carl drafting Blackledge.
Um, yeah.

tomahawk kid 03-03-2005 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Nah, it's much <i>safer</i> to get a nice, cheap, 2nd/3rd tier FA in the latter stages of the FA period, and draft "reach", errr, "diamonds in the rough"-type players in the draft (because they're easier to sign). That way we can have a good cap number and be competitive. That's all we can ask for you know? Being competitive.


fuck that. If you never climb out on the limb, you'll never get the fruit.
Amen, brotha.

I believe!!

bricks 03-03-2005 10:29 AM
You know what?? It not like he didn't try to improve the defense, he did try, but, sucked majorly at it. What's killing us is ther huge contracts he dished out previously to Barber, McCleon, Holliday. Plus, re-signing all those scrubs, like Hicks, Woods, Bartee. It's no wonder why we are tied up in cap space.

nmt1 03-03-2005 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
fuck that. If you never climb out on the limb, you'll never get the fruit.
That's easy to say when it's someone else's money and butt on the line.

tomahawk kid 03-03-2005 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nmt1
That's easy to say when it's someone else's money and butt on the line.
Lamar? Clark? Is that you?

The Bad Guy 03-03-2005 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nmt1
The Chiefs owe the fans 8 football games.
It's in their best interest to put the best team on the field because they run the risk of losing their customers if they don't.

I hope everyone remembers 2-3 years from now when we've got Rich Kotite for a head coach and we're going 3-13 how nice it was that we "got aggresive" in free agency and made an attempt to go for it all.

The Chiefs are going to get some players this offseason. Some fans will like them, some won't. Regardless of who we get, the chances of us not winning the Superbowl will be quite a bit less than the chances of us winning the Superbowl. Nothing will ever change that.
What's the difference between going 3-13, 7-9, 6-10, 8-8?

A high draft pick.

If you don't make the playoffs, I don't care what the record is.

Chiefs have had 2 playoff appearances since 1997 and just 1 top 10 pick in that time.

nmt1 03-03-2005 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bricks
You know what?? It not like he didn't try to improve the defense, he did try, but, sucked majorly at it. What's killing us is ther huge contracts he dished out previously to Barber, McCleon, Holliday. Plus, re-signing all those scrubs, like Hicks, Woods, Bartee. It's no wonder why we are tied up in cap space.
Why dish out more huge contracts if it's pretty much guaranteed that whoever we give them to will suck? I mean, it is Carl do the dishing.

KCTitus 03-03-2005 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
Chiefs have had 2 playoff appearances since 1997 and just 1 top 10 pick in that time.
And they managed to waste that one pick...*gah!*

The Bad Guy 03-03-2005 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nmt1
That's easy to say when it's someone else's money and butt on the line.
Yeah, Carl Peterson's ass has been on the line for so long now. :rolleyes:

I really wish people would stop talking like Lamar Hunt ownes a local five & dime. He's a friggen billionaire.

nmt1 03-03-2005 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
Lamar? Clark? Is that you?
Um, yeah.

HC_Chief 03-03-2005 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nmt1
That's easy to say when it's someone else's money and butt on the line.
lol, it's that chickenshit attitude that's kept this team out of the SB for 35 years :)

nmt1 03-03-2005 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
Yeah, Carl Peterson's ass has been on the line for so long now. :rolleyes:

I really wish people would stop talking like Lamar Hunt ownes a local five & dime. He's a friggen billionaire.
Yes, his livelyhood has been on the line. It's not his fault that Lamar Hunt favors him over randomly hiring and firing guys.
I never said anything about how much money Lamar Hunt has. It makes no difference how much he has. The difference is that if it was your money, you'd probably see the situation a little differently.


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