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htismaqe 09-13-2005 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs
WTF?

Why would you throw Bartee and freaking WOODS out there at corner?

The last time Woods played corner, we won 5 and lost zero.

Kyle401 09-13-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Jordan looked gassed and unimpressive in the Pats game. I'm not exactly sure he's use to being the feature back after being a backup for 4 years.

We just played a very good game against a good running team and the leading rusher from last year. Jordan needs to be stopped with our front 7 this week.

I saw this headline on ESPN today:
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Pro Football Weekly is hearing whispers about Lamont Jordan's comfort level as a featured back.
But, I don't have In and couldn't read the article. FWIW I also thought Jordan looked unimpressive in the second half, but figured it was just conditioning and he would work it out.

greg63 09-13-2005 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

I think we should do that more in every game. We need some trickery with the toss sweep. Fake the toss and throw the other direction or some such. Sure, the toss sweep has been gold for the Chiefs, but predictability is a Bad Thing.

xoxo~
Gaz
A big fan of confused Enemies.

I agree with your analysis, but will the Raider "D" bite on the sweep fake without Roaf on the field? I had originally thought that Surtain would be the least of worries, but now that you mention it - once you have sustained a concussion you do become more susceptible to consequent concussions. Those who play CB are, many times, involved in some major collusion's. Good analysis. :thumb:

Warrior5 09-13-2005 01:15 PM

Anyone have a good analysis of the Raiduhs O-line in terms of strengths/weaknesses?

Wallcrawler 09-13-2005 01:37 PM

Collins is going to be getting hit early and often. The Raiders offensive line didnt do a good job of protecting him in the opener, and he got a bad case of tunnel vision really quick.

Numerous plays Jerry Porter, and Alvis Whitted were open with Moss drawing 2-3 defenders, but Collins threw it up for Moss anyway because of the pressure.

The Raiders O-line let defenders through, and if they didnt sack Collins, they were hitting him and making him force the throw. On a few big plays for first downs, the plays were called back due to penalties on the Raiders offensive line.

Oakland has never been a disciplined team. They were penalized for around 130 yards in the opener, so it doesnt look like they have improved much in the discipline department.

The Raiders defense will not be able to stop the KC offense, even without big Willie Roaf in there.


Sims' loss will be tough to deal with, but I really see Gun employing more of that 3-4 defense he was utilizing against the jets. It shut down Curtis Martin, and Lamont Jordan is by no means on par with him. We have pretty good depth at DE with Allen, Hicks, Hall, and Wilkerson so going with the one DT out there seems to be the best choice if the Chiefs are unable to sign an adequate replacement. John Browning and Lional Dalton rotating in at the NT position would take the sting out of Sims' loss.

Having Keyaron Fox on the field over Junior Siavii is a no-brainer.


I think Surtain will play. From what Vermiel is saying, he has to have some idea from the team doctors that he Surtain can go sunday. Surtain doesnt have a history of injuries, and concussions are nothing to mess with, so you know the Chiefs' staff will be careful with him. If they say he can go, Im confident that he wont be risking further injury.


Not having Tony Richardson stings, but it isnt all bad. It will open up more opportunities for the 2 TE sets, and possibly 3 TE sets getting Kris Wilson in the game. Dunn, Wilson, and Gonzalez presents big problems for the opposing offense, especially with Priest Holmes or Larry Johnson behind them. Ronnie Cruz wasnt all bad in his replacement of Richardson either.

Overall, I think the Chiefs handle Oakland in pretty convincing fashion, despite having some injured players on the sideline.

htismaqe 09-13-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler
Collins is going to be getting hit early and often. The Raiders offensive line didnt do a good job of protecting him in the opener, and he got a bad case of tunnel vision really quick.

Numerous plays Jerry Porter, and Alvis Whitted were open with Moss drawing 2-3 defenders, but Collins threw it up for Moss anyway because of the pressure.

The Raiders O-line let defenders through, and if they didnt sack Collins, they were hitting him and making him force the throw. On a few big plays for first downs, the plays were called back due to penalties on the Raiders offensive line.

Oakland has never been a disciplined team. They were penalized for around 130 yards in the opener, so it doesnt look like they have improved much in the discipline department.

The Raiders defense will not be able to stop the KC offense, even without big Willie Roaf in there.


Sims' loss will be tough to deal with, but I really see Gun employing more of that 3-4 defense he was utilizing against the jets. It shut down Curtis Martin, and Lamont Jordan is by no means on par with him. We have pretty good depth at DE with Allen, Hicks, Hall, and Wilkerson so going with the one DT out there seems to be the best choice if the Chiefs are unable to sign an adequate replacement. John Browning and Lional Dalton rotating in at the NT position would take the sting out of Sims' loss.

Having Keyaron Fox on the field over Junior Siavii is a no-brainer.


I think Surtain will play. From what Vermiel is saying, he has to have some idea from the team doctors that he Surtain can go sunday. Surtain doesnt have a history of injuries, and concussions are nothing to mess with, so you know the Chiefs' staff will be careful with him. If they say he can go, Im confident that he wont be risking further injury.


Not having Tony Richardson stings, but it isnt all bad. It will open up more opportunities for the 2 TE sets, and possibly 3 TE sets getting Kris Wilson in the game. Dunn, Wilson, and Gonzalez presents big problems for the opposing offense, especially with Priest Holmes or Larry Johnson behind them. Ronnie Cruz wasnt all bad in his replacement of Richardson either.

Overall, I think the Chiefs handle Oakland in pretty convincing fashion, despite having some injured players on the sideline.

I was right with you until the last sentence.

These games are never "convincing". I don't see any reason this one will be different yet...

KCTitus 09-13-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
These games are never "convincing". I don't see any reason this one will be different yet...

Division/Rival games are allways 50/50, IMO. I'd like to think that KC can do it, but when it comes to KC v. Oak/Den you just never know.


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