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Mojo Rising 01-05-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Explain to me how being tall has anything to do with reading a defense. I guess if taller people are smarter you'd have something there......

The advantage has to do with seeing over O and D Lineman. This allows the QB in the pocket to not have to look between the gaps.

You can not seriuously be asking how height is an advantage at the QB position can you? It is not only the ability to throw between (or over) the defenderes, but to also see the WR's and DB's that are in the play downfield.

SBK 01-05-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch
You've got to be kidding me.

THis abortion of a game aside, he'll still be a 1st round pick and an immediate starter at HB in the NFL.

Young....no.

Bush won't be Touchdown Jesus in the NFL. He'll be good though. I'd take Larry Johnson over him every friggin day of the week.

Halfcan 01-05-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
It's kind of funny how 1 game is shaping a ton of opinions on here........I also think Halfcan hates everyone but he likes Rush. That's an assbackwards way to go through life.


Why do you hate Rush so much? Is it the killer lyrics, the expert playing ability, is it the huge connection they have with their fans all over the world-maybe that they have sold nearly 40 million records and have played 1500 sold out shows, including 5 straight nights at Madison Square Garden. Maybe it's the fact they are all about the music. Critics, radio, MTV, fashion trends, mean shit to them. They worked up from dive clubs, to be the best rock band in the world. Maybe its because they came back after Neil Peart lost his daughter and wife-and the band was all but dead-but somehow managed to overcome tragedy, to release an incredible CD in Vapor Trails, a multi platinum DVD-Rush in Rio, sold out concerts all over the world, and then celebrated 30 years of friendship with R30. They have a connection with their fans like no other-they have inspired countless bands, writers, and won the highest award given in Canada. Yeah your right they suck.

Funny you should talk about hate-I am not the one with F TEXAS in every thread.

Mecca 01-05-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising
The advantage has to do with seeing over O and D Lineman. This allows the QB in the pocket to not have to look between the gaps.

You can not seriuously be asking how height is an advantage at the QB position can you? It is not only the ability to throw between (or over) the defenderes, but to also see the WR's and DB's that are in the play downfield.

Ok, I thought you were trying to say being tall made him better at reading defenses. As of right now Young's height doesn't help him in the pass game because he releases the ball so low.

SBK 01-05-2006 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I'm sure Leinart is classless for his 1 comment seconds after he just lost the last game of his college career. Let's having a feeling for the context of when it was said.

Leinart = Ken Dorsey

Mecca 01-05-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan
Why do you hate Rush so much? Is it the killer lyrics, the expert playing ability, is it the huge connection they have with their fans all over the world-maybe that they have sold nearly 40 million records and have played 1500 sold out shows, including 5 straight nights at Madison Square Garden. Maybe it's the fact they are all about the music. Critics, radio, MTV, fashion trends, mean shit to them. They worked up from dive clubs, to be the best rock band in the world. Maybe its because they came back after Neil Peart lost his daughter and wife-and the band was all but dead-but somehow managed to overcome tragedy, to release an incredible CD in Vapor Trails, a multi platinum DVD-Rush in Rio, sold out concerts all over the world, and then celebrated 30 years of friendship with R30. They have a connection with their fans like no other-they have inspired countless bands, writers, and won the highest award given in Canada. Yeah your right they suck.

Funny you should talk about hate-I am not the one with F TEXAS in every thread.

Maybe it's that Rush makes me feel like my eyes are going to bleed.

I gave credit to Texas for winning the game in the game thread if you wanna check that out...........

Mecca 01-05-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shortbuskid
Leinart = Ken Dorsey

:rolleyes: Your sister has a better arm than Ken Dorsey.......

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-05-2006 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shortbuskid
Leinart = Ken Dorsey

then Vince Young = Maurice Clarett :hmmm:

Mecca 01-05-2006 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla
then Vince Young = Maurice Clarett :hmmm:

Shit, I better hide my cellphone.

SBK 01-05-2006 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla
then Vince Young = Maurice Clarett :hmmm:

Nope.

Vince Young = Vick + a good passer rating

SBK 01-05-2006 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
:rolleyes: Your sister has a better arm than Ken Dorsey.......

I don't have a sister. I've never been real impressed with Leinart, he should have thanked his two RB's for the Heisman he got to hoist, cause without them he wouldn't have got it.

Mecca 01-05-2006 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shortbuskid
I don't have a sister. I've never been real impressed with Leinart, he should have thanked his two RB's for the Heisman he got to hoist, cause without them he wouldn't have got it.

Leinarts going to be like Trent Green in the NFL. That's my feeling on him. He's smart can get the ball to his playmakers make the right reads at the line all of that sorta stuff. But if you're gonna ask him to be the man and win games for you, I don't think he can do that.

Soupnazi 01-05-2006 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
No, that's a fact. I'd have said it 3 months ago if someone said something about Young in the NFL. John Gruden has Chris Simms on his roster, he made the comment that Chris had, had the least amount of coaching he'd ever seen any QB have. What's that tell you about old Mack Brown?

Simms got little coaching because he couldn't even beat out Major Applewhite for the starting position. I wouldn't rely on Gruden's opinion of the coaching of a former NFL QB's son to determine how Young's career will progress.

Young success in the NFL, as with all QB's, will depend largely on his supporting cast. But I don't see how anyone can say he'll be a flop when he holds the best QB efficiency rating in all of college football.

JohnnyV13 01-05-2006 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising
Can't read Defenses? I thought Dan Fouts commented on how his height gives him an advantage on reading Defenses.... this is when he was 12 - 14 (in the first half). He finished the game 30/40. His year QB rating was 111.

I didn't say he CAN'T read defenses, I just said he seemed SLOW in reading defenses. It could be his offense is not a timing offense like KC's (or USC) for that matter. To me, it doesn't look like he goes through progressions that much. I think he's going to need work at the NFL level.

Notice when he was pressured with the Blitz on the last drive? His first thought was to run. Now, it works b/c he's a damn elusive runner. But I don't think he has the super agility of michael vick, though his passing numbers in college are much better than Vick's.

Mojo Rising 01-05-2006 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Ok, I thought you were trying to say being tall made him better at reading defenses. As of right now Young's height doesn't help him in the pass game because he releases the ball so low.

I am saying that it helps him read the defense. You have to see th WR before you can throw it to him. That is at about the same height.

I too wanted SC to win today. I have family close to the program and I agreed to root for SC if they rooted for the Chiefs.

I got behind VY in last years Rose Bowl when he took control of the game and beat Michigan. This years game was very similiar, however, he was facing a team that could beat the Texans without Derrick Johnson forcing turnovers on the D side of the field.

You are unfairly comparing VY to running QB's. If he is such a bad passer then why is his QB Rating so good?


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