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MahiMike 02-06-2006 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lono
It doesnt matter if he kicked the pylon or not. He had never established himself in bounds. Touching the pylon only comes into play when you already have possesion. He clearly had one foot down and the other out of bounds. Another thing if Jackson's push off wasnt right in front of the official no it wouldnt have been called. But the rules say he can not extend his arm. He CLEARLY extended his arm to get seperation. When you do something like that right in front of the official its going to get called. The ref was trying to get the flag out immediately just couldnt find it. Of course fox sports didnt want to see that. Another thing no one wants to talk about Hasselback's fumble? Are you kidding me he got touched by a finger nail before he went down. He fumbled the football. Steelers ball. Seattle had a ton of chances to score but couldnt put it in time after time. Dropped balls and their defense giving up the big play lost them the game, not the officials.
Steeler fan alert. Not even trying to hide it here. How'd he get in here?

HC_Chief 02-06-2006 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jidar
That was offensive pass interferance. He pushed the guy and the guys weight went back onto his heels. I don't understand how so many people could think otherwise, he reached up and shoved the guy, how the hell more blatant would it have to be? Do we only call it if they shove them hard enough to knock them down?
sheesh
It was a non-call at best. The DB initiated contact.

MahiMike 02-06-2006 12:23 PM
In this same vane (NFL wanted Steelers to win), did you notice how many commercials showed the Steelers making love to the Lombardi trophy? It wasn't until the 2nd half that they showed a Seahawk in one of these commercials.

I was like, "man, can it get any more obvious than that!?"

htismaqe 02-06-2006 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike
In this same vane (NFL wanted Steelers to win), did you notice how many commercials showed the Steelers making love to the Lombardi trophy? It wasn't until the 2nd half that they showed a Seahawk in one of these commercials.

I was like, "man, can it get any more obvious than that!?"
I mentioned that in my thread, comparing the NFL to the WWE.

FringeNC 02-06-2006 12:46 PM
I've read comments that well Seattle still had chances, and didn't execute, so the bad calls can't be blamed....

Well, ya...It's not like a dominant SF whipping up on the hapless Donks, like past SBs. This thing was evenly matched, and the bad calls happened at the worst time for Seattle. This game was decided by the refs.

jidar 02-06-2006 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
It was a non-call at best. The DB initiated contact.
Oh horse shit. I didn't see the DB lift the receivers arm up and put it on his chest.

HC_Chief 02-06-2006 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jidar
Oh horse shit. I didn't see the DB lift the receivers arm up and put it on his chest.
DB initiated contact. Watch it again.... and try to be objective.

jidar 02-06-2006 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
DB initiated contact. Watch it again.... and try to be objective.
I'm not objective? I didn't give a shit who won. I didn't even bet on anyone. My wife bought a "Go Seahawks" cookie for the party at my house if that counts since one of my co-workers was rooting for the Seahawks.

To me it's plain. He reaches up, shoves the guy and goes the opposite way, it's pushing off. Is there something about initiating contact in the rule book?

That said, I'll watch it again if there is a clip anywhere.

HC_Chief 02-06-2006 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jidar
Is there something about initiating contact in the rule book?
Hmm, dunno about that one - thus the reason I think it should be a non-call. There IS a rule regarding contact after five yards... and the DB broke it. He reached out and put his hands on the receiver; the receiver brought his arm down to get the DB's hands off of him, then made the catch. Technically the DB committed pass interference since he initiated contact after five yards with the ball in the air. The receiver brushing off the DB's hands did NOT commit OPI, but it could be construed as illegal contact; that is, if the DB hadn't put his hands there first. Either way, it was ticky-tack penalty and NEITHER player should have been flagged. But for the sake of consistency the refs penalized the Seahag player ;)

jspchief 02-06-2006 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jidar
I'm not objective? I didn't give a shit who won. I didn't even bet on anyone. My wife bought a "Go Seahawks" cookie for the party at my house if that counts since one of my co-workers was rooting for the Seahawks.

To me it's plain. He reaches up, shoves the guy and goes the opposite way, it's pushing off. Is there something about initiating contact in the rule book?

That said, I'll watch it again if there is a clip anywhere.
Actually, the DB (Hope) made the first illegal contact at the goalline, then did it a second time just before Jackson pushed off.

IMO Jackson pushed off, and should have been flagged accordingly, but Hope made illegal contact twice before Jackson pushed off. If you're going to "let em play" when Hope is all over DJ, then you have to be consistent and let DJ get away with a minor push off. Otherwise, if you're going to call a tight game, call it consistently tight and flag Hope for illegal contact.

OnTheWarpath15 02-06-2006 03:41 PM
I had no rooting interest whatsoever in the game. That being said:

Seattle fans and the people crying foul are sore freakin losers.

The officials didn't miss two field goals.

The officials didn't make Jackson stick his arm out (giving the appearence he pushed off) He could have easily made that play w/o the stiff arm.

The officials didn't tackle defensive linemen.

The officials didn't drop almost every pass thrown their way. (Stevens)

The officials didn't give up a 3rd and 28 conversion.

The officials didn't overthrow Jackson for a crucial interception.

The officials didn't coach the game like Mike Martz. Seattle's play calling and clock management was pathetic.

Seattle didn't execute. Bottom line.

And for those of you with the stick up your ass about Bettis leading the team out of the tunnel........

His TEAMMATES asked him to do so. Was referenced at the time, and in newspaper accounts today.

The better team won yesterday.

htismaqe 02-06-2006 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
I had no rooting interest whatsoever in the game. That being said:

Seattle fans and the people crying foul are sore freakin losers.

The officials didn't miss two field goals.

The officials didn't make Jackson stick his arm out (giving the appearence he pushed off) He could have easily made that play w/o the stiff arm.

The officials didn't tackle defensive linemen.

The officials didn't drop almost every pass thrown their way. (Stevens)

The officials didn't give up a 3rd and 28 conversion.

The officials didn't overthrow Jackson for a crucial interception.

The officials didn't coach the game like Mike Martz. Seattle's play calling and clock management was pathetic.

Seattle didn't execute. Bottom line.

And for those of you with the stick up your ass about Bettis leading the team out of the tunnel........

His TEAMMATES asked him to do so. Was referenced at the time, and in newspaper accounts today.

The better team won yesterday.
Classic!

Thanks for that input, Steeler fan.

jspchief 02-06-2006 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
I had no rooting interest whatsoever in the game. That being said:

Seattle fans and the people crying foul are sore freakin losers.

The officials didn't miss two field goals.

The officials didn't make Jackson stick his arm out (giving the appearence he pushed off) He could have easily made that play w/o the stiff arm.

The officials didn't tackle defensive linemen.

The officials didn't drop almost every pass thrown their way. (Stevens)

The officials didn't give up a 3rd and 28 conversion.

The officials didn't overthrow Jackson for a crucial interception.

The officials didn't coach the game like Mike Martz. Seattle's play calling and clock management was pathetic.

Seattle didn't execute. Bottom line.

And for those of you with the stick up your ass about Bettis leading the team out of the tunnel........

His TEAMMATES asked him to do so. Was referenced at the time, and in newspaper accounts today.

The better team won yesterday.
So you're saying you think it's okay for officials to do a bad job as long as the better team wins?

OnTheWarpath15 02-06-2006 03:50 PM
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Classic!

Thanks for that input, Steeler fan.
Wow, didn't even make it past the first line, congratulations.

AGAIN.....no rooting interest....Chiefs weren't playing, so who cares?

Lose with class = "We're not going to blame this game on anyone but ourselves," said Seahawks defensive end Grant Wistrom. "We lost the game. They played better than we did. They didn't make the mistakes." -Grant Wistrom

Classless losers = "I didn't even touch him," Jackson said. "I guess that's how it is when you are on the road. And I guess that's how it is when you are going against the world." -Darrell Jackson

jspchief 02-06-2006 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
AGAIN.....no rooting interest....Chiefs weren't playing, so who cares?
I agree. No one should care if the officiating is bad in the biggest game in the league.


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