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ct 03-03-2006 12:46 PM
I haven't read this whole thing, but this is just stupid. Who really cares about selfishness here? If he did restructure, then he got paid up front, good for him. That also frees up cap space for the team, good for the team.

What's the frikin problem here?

Mecca 03-03-2006 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HipHopper4Life
He didn't do anything. The second set of numbers you listed are his salary cap numbers, not his salary. NFLPA.org lists ONLY base salaries.

What they don't list is LBEI's (Likely to be earned incentive numbers) which is where a majority of his money comes from and what is factored into his cap number.
If this post is true, then this is a thread about nothing.

ct 03-03-2006 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca
If this post is true, then this is a thread about nothing.
Guess that wouldn't be a 1st around here eh?

the Talking Can 03-03-2006 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca
If this post is true, then this is a thread about nothing.
now I understand why Nick doesn't pay him...

Seek 03-03-2006 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief
You must be really tight with the Holmes family. :rolleyes:
No his father in law was the first to deny Priest retiring to the media at the end of the season, and just a week ago, he is saying he things Priest is done to the media.

Seek 03-03-2006 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief
Whereas tsince the emergence of LJ, some fans have been pretty damn unfair to him.
This is a very true statement. Then again, makes you wonder if it was Priest all alone, or was it the o-line. I mean I can tell a difference between Priest and Mike Cloud, or Priest and Dee Brown. But I could also tell a difference between Mike Cloud and D. Blaylock.

TEX 03-03-2006 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe
My bitterness for Priest can be summed up in 4 words:

"I wanna get paid."

Maybe it's unfair...actually, it is unfair.

But for some reason, prior to 2003, I thought Priest was somehow different.
I felt the same way when he did it on the sidelines, but I also admired the fact that he showed up to camp on time and went all out. Many would have held out even coming off an injury.

tk13 03-03-2006 03:37 PM
It will be interesting to see how people react when LJ says he wants to be paid. Another year like he had last year and he'll have every right to hold out. Priest deserved the money, and at least he didn't hold out like 99% of pro sports athletes that don't play when they want more money. He was a bit harsh about it, but on the other hand he was dealing with Carl Peterson.

HipHopper4Life 03-03-2006 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca
If this post is true, then this is a thread about nothing.
It's true. The first set of numbers he gave are just the base salary. The second set takes into account the combined salary, bonuses, LTBE incentives, and amortized bonuses to give you his cap number.

Priest's numbers never changed.

And it couldn't to that effect listed without a new agreement being reached on Monday. Converting the remaining money into a bonus spread over 4 years would put the contract in violation of the Deion Sanders 30% rule being that 2006 would be the last uncapped year.

The Bad Guy 03-03-2006 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HipHopper4Life
It's true. The first set of numbers he gave are just the base salary. The second set takes into account the combined salary, bonuses, LTBE incentives, and amortized bonuses to give you his cap number.

Priest's numbers never changed.

And it couldn't to that effect listed without a new agreement being reached on Monday. Converting the remaining money into a bonus spread over 4 years would put the contract in violation of the Deion Sanders 30% rule being that 2006 would be the last uncapped year.
You're wrong.

I checked the site last week, and the numbers were much higher. I don't remember them offhand, but they have changed since last week.

Players typically don't have a 2.4 million base salary one year, and then a 600,000 the next. Generally, they usually only go up or decrease very slightly.

He signed a big contract back in 2003. The sum of that deal wasn't a total base salary of about 8 million.

alanm 03-03-2006 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief
I know I railed on him for that when it happened. I was posting at Wildbill's at the time, and those homers were having a fit over the way I has hammering him. But then I watched him earn every penny the following season. I watched him give his body up leaping and flipping into the endzone.

That's when I stopped and reconsidered. The Chiefs had just drafted a RB in the first round. That was their bargaining chip. Priest tried to make his bargaining chip fan support. In the end, he wasn't playing any more dirty than the Chiefs were, and it was all about getting something that he deserved.

I don't think he's a good guy. I think he's probably a dick, a lot like Gonzo is. But I don't feel he's been particulary unfair to this organization or it's fans. Whereas tsince the emergence of LJ, some fans have been pretty damn unfair to him.
Chief fans in general have been hard on the RB's and QB's because, lets face it, they've sucked over the years. Until recently.

jspchief 03-03-2006 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz
dam, if you had a brain you'd be dangerous

did i say he wouldn't play if he was on the roster? we were talking about restructures and pay cuts.


i said paying him for doing nothing ... like when we paid a player (rich gan non??) 100,000 dollars for restructuring his contract early so we could just cut him later.

we basically paid 100k just to delay a cap hit long enough for us to cut him when it was more convenient.

or

like when we restructure a players contract without them taking a pay cut.

we basically give them their yearly salary up front to lessen the salary cap hit.

The player gets paid immediately for doing nothing.
My point was, why would the Chiefs let him restructure and give him his salary in bonus money if they thought he was going to retire?

I don't think the FO would do something that stupid. If the organization asked for (or agreed to) this, then I have to believe they were smart enough to anticipate him retiring and structured the contract accordingly.

The fact that they did this instead of cutting him leads me to believe that it's beneficial to the Chiefs.

Hammock Parties 03-03-2006 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
You're wrong.

I checked the site last week, and the numbers were much higher. I don't remember them offhand, but they have changed since last week.

Players typically don't have a 2.4 million base salary one year, and then a 600,000 the next. Generally, they usually only go up or decrease very slightly.

He signed a big contract back in 2003. The sum of that deal wasn't a total base salary of about 8 million.
Yep. This is legit.


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