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Loki 09-24-2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
Loki, hang in there man, KEEP UP THE FIGHT, you have already established the ground work for terminating the asshole in your life. It's only natural for the asshole to produce some shit along the way by any means she can. These are nothing but trials you need to endure to maintain custody of the kids., the battle has been won.

As long as you continue the course you are on, it's just a matter of time before the asshole runs it's course and has nothing to come back on.

Word of the wise, get you a ledger, log all the activity down, date and time, how they affect youe kids with her actions. She will continue to try to use the kids against you, but most of all, just tell your kids that ( mommy ) asshole has some problems, don't go into details to them about it at this time. They are too young to understand adults ( or an inmature adult asshole ). Always be positive with the kids about her, somehow.

It's commom for adults to ask kids what goes on in the ex's life when split up. Many times most adults use it for an advantage against each other ..... Never fully understanding what it does to a kid on the inside.

Always remember, look at it thru a kids eyes and age , always ask your kids, never drill them and degrade the ex but explain to them why things aren't right in her life and that you wish it could be better for them, but do keep all info logged down, dates and times. This will get you farther in the eyes of the courts since you are being the responsible , mature , parent here.

Best of luck ...........

yeah, i keep a journal. been doing it since the divorce. my attorney said that asshole would step on her own dick sooner or later, so just document everything and save all the nasty voicemails on tape.

unfortunately, the kids have been exposed to WAY to much of adult life. they understand a lot more of it than i ever thought possible. the kid's therapist and the GAL both said they know WAY TOO MUCH for kids their age. luckily, both kids are smart enough to not let me know what they know... they know i'd either have a massive coronary or hit the stratosphere like an ICBM...

i really DO try to keep from ragging on asshole in front of them to a minimum. it is VERY hard sometimes... especially when she is having a tantrum with me on the phone in front of them. i try to walk out of the room so they can't hear it, but her grating voice can be heard for miles... i also can't help myself to a few choice phrases after i hang up. only natural, but i DO try. :shrug:
i know that they're part of both of us so i try to respect them in that aspect. but truth be known, my daughter HATES her mother (for good reason) already.
usually, i try and change the subject if the kids are talking about their mother or asking me questions about her. the only time they really get in depth with talking about their mother is when they go to their therapist. pretty much every time before the kids go to speak with their therapist, my daughter will begin drawing pictures or writing things about her mother in the waiting room. you can always count on her to draw in big huge letters "i hate mom" on her pictures. pretty twisted and disturbing stuff...
but OTOH i always dig the pictures the kids draw of me and them together (either at the therapists or at school)... always puts a smile on my face. :) got them pinned up on the fridge and in their rooms.

thanks for your thoughts.

trndobrd 09-24-2006 10:23 PM

Don't be too quick to blame it on your attorney. It sounds like she has done a damn fine job for you so far. I don't mess with domestic, but I do know that Judges really hate custody hearings and will go to great lengths to have the parties come to some sort of resolution. In Kansas I believe you can get a temporary support order while you are waiting for final disposition. Your jurisdiction may vary.

Also in Kansas, only one party to a conversation needs to know that it is being recorded. Might be worthwhile to have the video camera pointed out the bedroom window next Wednesday night.

Do you know if Ex-Con or Delinquent Son are still under any type of court or post release supervision? If so, may have some suggestions.

Loki 09-24-2006 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo
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turning to your question, there are many substantial advantages to having custody such as control over the kids medical treatment, control over the activities going on around them, etc.
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first of all, her visitations ARE supposed to be supervised. for some fucked up reason they seem to think that having the visits at her parent's house qualifies as being "supervised". they ALL know that the kids are NOT supposed to be anywhere near ex-con and gangsta-boy because mother-of-asshole has been at most of the hearings, and was certainly at the last hearing when they looked straight at her in the courtroom and said that supervised visitations would take place in their house.
they also looked straight at her when they reiterated that the kids would not be anywhere near ex-con and gangsta-boy during these supervised visits.
this is also written in plain english on the damn court orders we all have copies of.

regardless of such, ex-con and gangsta-boy have BOTH been at the "supervised" visitation house when my son goes for his "supervised" visits. asshole even had the audacity to pick my son up with ex-con and gangsta-boy in the fucking car with her!!! she sent my son back in to tell my mom (who was watching the kids for me while i was working) that it was an old neighbor in the passenger's seat (gangsta-boy was hiding in the back seat). my mom has met that particular person and KNEW it wasn't him. by the time she got the camera, asshole had sped off down the street with my son in the car with the fucking people she isn't supposed to have him around...
cripes... i picked him up from his visit tonight and my daughter saw them peeking out the windows... again. my son also confirmed that they had been there all weekend... again.

WTF??!! :banghead:

yeah... "supervised" visitation. they're ALL thumbing their noses at the court while i follow the rules like a friggin' chump. this SUCKS bo... for real.

Loki 09-24-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tommykat
I feel for you, mostly the children. They are such a precious gift from God. More and more "men" are getting custody of the children. You have done a great job. I have to agree with Phob on this.....One day when/if she does get clean she will hurt worse than you or the kids have. I know that sounds simple, but it is true. You don't have to love her or like her, but one day if she cleans up her act remember that those beautiful children are part of both of you.

Bless you and your children. God is with you!

thanks for your thoughts...

one question though... what's with the "men" in quotes?? :hmmm:
just curious... :shrug:

Loki 09-24-2006 11:06 PM

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hmmm... been trying to thank all who have responded to this thread but apparently it will not let me continue to do so. (that's kinda lame...)
anyways, thanks to all who have responded so far, i'll get to each of you individually when i can.
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kregger 09-24-2006 11:44 PM

Loki,
Hang in there dude. It sounds like you are so close to getting this resolved. My prayers to your kids and your family.

Inspector 09-25-2006 06:32 AM

Prayers and best wishes on a expedited and successful fight and victory. That is indeed a rare thing for those who have the penis disadvantage working against them.

I have told my sons: "Be careful where you stick your dick!" on many occasions.

One of them didn't really pay attention. We may in for a similar deal....ugh....

kepp 09-25-2006 07:28 AM

Man, I can't imagine what you and your kids are going through. I'm praying for you guys.

Iowanian 09-25-2006 08:10 AM

I'm in.

I have no life experience to equate this to, only can offer my support to continue to do what you're doing for the betterment of the Kids and yourself.

Don't let the hate for her burn you up.

Best of luck.

Brock 09-25-2006 09:26 AM

Sorry, Loke.

SquirrellyBastard 09-25-2006 09:35 AM

We'll pray for you. Good Luck!

Phobia 09-25-2006 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Loki
thanks for your thoughts...

one question though... what's with the "men" in quotes?? :hmmm:
just curious... :shrug:

She doesn't have any idea, Lok. I wouldn't sweat it.

Bowser 09-25-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Loki
first of all, her visitations ARE supposed to be supervised. for some fucked up reason they seem to think that having the visits at her parent's house qualifies as being "supervised". they ALL know that the kids are NOT supposed to be anywhere near ex-con and gangsta-boy because mother-of-asshole has been at most of the hearings, and was certainly at the last hearing when they looked straight at her in the courtroom and said that supervised visitations would take place in their house.
they also looked straight at her when they reiterated that the kids would not be anywhere near ex-con and gangsta-boy during these supervised visits.
this is also written in plain english on the damn court orders we all have copies of.

regardless of such, ex-con and gangsta-boy have BOTH been at the "supervised" visitation house when my son goes for his "supervised" visits. asshole even had the audacity to pick my son up with ex-con and gangsta-boy in the fucking car with her!!! she sent my son back in to tell my mom (who was watching the kids for me while i was working) that it was an old neighbor in the passenger's seat (gangsta-boy was hiding in the back seat). my mom has met that particular person and KNEW it wasn't him. by the time she got the camera, asshole had sped off down the street with my son in the car with the fucking people she isn't supposed to have him around...
cripes... i picked him up from his visit tonight and my daughter saw them peeking out the windows... again. my son also confirmed that they had been there all weekend... again.

WTF??!! :banghead:

yeah... "supervised" visitation. they're ALL thumbing their noses at the court while i follow the rules like a friggin' chump. this SUCKS bo... for real.

I won't even pretend to be a lawyer, but wouldn't this be a violation of a court order, or some such?

Phobia 09-25-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser
I won't even pretend to be a lawyer, but wouldn't this be a violation of a court order, or some such?

My ex has violated dozens of court orders. They don't enforce them unless you spend thousands of dollars taking them to court again and again. Family court is an absolute nightmare. Don't ever get divorced not even if your wife decides she's a man. Become gay.

mlyonsd 09-25-2006 12:34 PM

Thoughts and prayers to your kids and you.

Also, anyone that would throw a 7 year old against a wall deserves a two year battle with terminal pancreatic cancer.


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