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jidar 01-25-2007 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
When we are young, a small disparity in age can be huge in terms of development (both physical and mental). As we mature the disparity between ages is diminished. A majority of the time, 20 is closer to 23 than 15 is to 17 as far as maturity.

Maybe I am a prude, but knowing the circumstances of the event has definitely altered my view of Genarlow. When I first heard of the story, I (mistakenly) assumed he received the BJ from a girlfriend. The article in the original post indicates that was not the case. These kids held and videotaped an orgy with 15 year olds. IMO, that is deviant behavior. Again, I don't think this guy deserves 10 years in jail but he earned some jail time and the sex offender label.


yeah well, you're also ****ing stupid.

seriously, since when did being a senior trying to nail sophmores become some kind of weird deviant behavior.

the majority of kids have been trying to do that since time ****ing began. We've gotten so ****ing hysterical about protecting children nobody has any god damned sense anymore.

Chief Chief 01-25-2007 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etick...ry?page=wilson
But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex.

This sums it up best for me: It's legal in Georgia for an 18-year old to have sex of any kind with a 14-year old.

HonestChieffan 01-25-2007 07:47 AM

He had sex with a 15 year old, supplied booze, and drugs....if he was not an athelete, no one would give a damn.

Come to think of it, I dont anyway.

BigRedChief 01-25-2007 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71
This kid was a good student/athlete. He had oral sex when he was 17 with a 15 yo girl. And now he's in prison for 10 years. "but because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex."

Well the little twist is that its no longer a felony. The law has been amended to a misdemeanor. But not retroactively.

Old Dog 01-25-2007 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by noa949
I'm glad ESPN is publicizing this story. Someone needs to intervene on this guy's behalf cause he is getting royally screwed.

No sir. If he had gotten screwed it would have been OK. He's in jail because he only got a hummer.

Seriously, that's messed up.

Swanman 01-25-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Why won't anyone answer this question, "What punishment would you suggest for a 17 year old who hosts, participates in and videotapes and orgy with a 15 year old?"

From the legal system, no punishment should be given for the sexual act. Looking at the ages 17 and 15, that is on average a high school sophomore performing the BJ on a high school senior. That happens a lot more than people (especially the idiot far right wing bible-thumping conservatives) want to believe and IMO, it's just not a huge deal. Kids that age are going to sexually active more often than not and no amount of archaic ridiculous laws are going to change that.

The kid should be punished by the legal system for the drugs and booze present at the party, I wouldn't have a problem with that, and the kid's mother should give him the whipping of his life for exercising such horrible judgment, but that should be it. He screwed up, but he shouldn't be locked up in the system for the 10 most important years of his life (and being labeled a sex offender alongside rapists and pedophiles is an absolute joke). Our legal system has taken a kid that could have gone on to get a college education and maybe make something of himself and completely ruined his life.

Old Dog 01-25-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Why won't anyone answer this question, "What punishment would you suggest for a 17 year old who hosts, participates in and videotapes and orgy with a 15 year old?"

Her own mother has said that she (the daughter, not the mother....that's another story) is the one that initiated it. So, to answer your question.....none.

Brock 01-25-2007 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Any response to this question: "What punishment would you suggest for a 17 year old who hosts, participates in and videotapes and orgy with a 15 year old?"

How about a punishment that fits the crime? 10 years? Pssh.

vailpass 01-25-2007 08:47 AM

The kid who brought the video camera should be shot. Anyone who gets busy while they know they are being videotaped is stupid.
Was the bj-giving 15 year old slut white?

Brock 01-25-2007 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
The kid who brought the video camera should be shot. Anyone who gets busy while they know they are being videotaped is stupid.
Was the bj-giving 15 year old slut white?

I seem to remember that she was. Real Sports did a deal on this last year.

vailpass 01-25-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock
I seem to remember that she was. Real Sports did a deal on this last year.

Intersting.
Regardless of what they might say there are an awful lot of white folks who look at sex between the little white girl and the big black buck as a social and criminal offense. Not all of them live in the South.
Wonder if this case might have been different if the girl had been black??

jidar 01-25-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
The kid who brought the video camera should be shot. Anyone who gets busy while they know they are being videotaped is stupid.
Was the bj-giving 15 year old slut white?


Now we're shooting kids for poor judgement. Brilliant.

Maybe you should be shot.

Hydrae 01-25-2007 09:24 AM

One of the things that gets me is that everyone seems powerless to change what has happened even though 99.9% of people want it to get cleared up. That is messed up.

And to el borracho, no I don't there should have been any time involved at all. She initiated the act that he was convicted for and obviously was there voluntarily. The fact that there was an orgy has nothing to do with anything and if I read the article right, she was the only one who was 15. Heck, I have a friend who had her first child at 15 and then got married to the father. They are still married to this day and the child is in his mid 20's now.

Kids, remember....NEVER ALLOW PICTURES OR ANY OTHER FORM OF RECORD WHEN YOU DO STUPID SH*T!

Bowser 01-25-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole
That's what Bob Dole was thinking as he read the story. A governor can commute a death sentence but he can't make this bullshit right?

Maybe the gal who blew this kid can go blow the governor to ensure his release (no pun there).

Kind of a full circle zen thing.

Silock 01-25-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
I am a little confused. Genarlow chose not to take the plea bargain that was offered because he did not want the sex offender label. Since he was convicted of the crime, he recieved the sex offender label, anyway. At this point, the prosecutor offered him the same plea bargain (which would have greatly reduced the prison time) but Genarlow again chose not to take the plea bargain. Why the hell didn't he take the bargain? At this point, what negative would there have been to accepting the plea bargain? Am I missing something?

People want to villify the prosecutor but, according to the article, the prosecutor seems willing to make the same bargain and, if I am understanding this correctly, Genarlow hasn't asked. Why would he not ask? It makes no sense.

By the way, the BJ wasn't just a BJ from a younger girlfriend. It was part of an underage orgy that Genarlow and his friends videotaped. He doesn't deserve 10 years, but he earned some jail time and the sex offender label, IMO.

He didn't earn jailtime in the sense that he, in actuality, did nothing wrong on a moral or ethical level. I imagine he didn't take the plea bargain because he doesn't consider himself guilty. Smart kid.


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