Fringe,

I think we're screwed until Herm leaves. Hope I'm wrong.

Yep, unless Carl does what Indy has done with Dungy, and puts up a wall between Herm and the OC.

"It cannot work" is future tense. There's no factual basis for this argument because it hasn't actually occurred yet. I'm not saying I don't necessarily agree with you, I'm just saying that something that has not yet happened cannot be proven.

On the other hand, Marty's results are more than proven. The statement for him is "It DOES NOT work." And that's definitive fact.

It does work. Power offense and a tough D wins in the NFL. It might not be as pretty as the stat champion offense that DV put together but it is successful.

You mean when he lost to Herm in the playoff's?

I'm getting so confused.

Great take by Gretz (IMO)

Wow. Haven't seen that here in a long time.

I especially like the "we need a DT, LB, and CB...Bob Gretz is an idiot for saying we need a DT, LB, and CB" responses.

I don't know.

Talented team playing for a new coach and staff versus Martyocre and his extended family?

I'm more scared of whoever they hire, I think.

30 years ago I heard it referred to as a Superiority Complex, something that happens to people when they get a little power. It is kind of fun to watch a PTA meetings and such.

The truth is I think we are going to make the playoffs next year, but I can't really say anything until I find out who our coaching staff is.

Well, there are multiple people here that can vouch for me when I say I posted the exact same way on the Star BB and I wasn't a mod there.

I may very well have a superiority complex, but it sure as hell has nothing to do with being a mod.

The Chargers are loaded with talent. There's no excuse for NOT making the playoffs, regardless of coaching staff.

For some reason, Hemied can't grasp it. I'm not a Herm fan, but he was just stating what DV had proven in his time here.

I think you are mistaken. Marty's QB coach here from 95-98 was former Baker University TE Mike McCarthy, who everybody (including Whitlock) seemed to rip on. Gunther decided to go in a new direction when he was hired. McCarthy is now the Packers HC.

You get to 18 playoff games and people tend to give you chances. You see, not every team gets playoff games. Outside of the Marty years, the Chiefs have been to three [3!!!] in the past 35 years.