so use a condom, wear a life vest, buy studded snow tires (car accidents in the wintertime can be prevented more often than not with the proper use of winter tires) brush your teeth twice a day...it is just frikkin riduculous

I don't consider it micromanaging when the governments wants me to do something as simple as put on a ****ing seatbelt.

Newsflash: The government does spend a significant amount of money encouraging the use of condoms.

Interesting. VERY interesting...

I know what you mean... :hmmm:

Post #58. While there are exceptions, whan it comes to major traffic accidents, generally medical expenses far outweigh property damage expenses.

Again, I don't know what that has to do with what we're talking about.

and that is the point I'm making if your don't want your medical insurance rates go up then get legislation passed to prevent unsafe sex...that is the point it costs them money (I pay a $15 co-pay and the DR charges the Insurance company $300 for my visit all because I stoinked a girl/guy without using a condom and got herpes) and now I have to go to the DR every week for a checkup WTF over? you don't think that gets passed on to you? if me being a dumbass and not wearing my seatbelt and requires me regular DR visits or even a one time emergency visit how is that different?

It's not different, I addressed that a bunch of posts ago. Maybe you'd better get some sleep. :)

Dude it comes back to the insurance company paying out more than what you pay in therefore raising everyones rates...that is what we are talking about behind this whole big stink about making wearing seatbelts a law...because it saves you money (because they pay property damage and medical expenses that far outweigh what you pay in) So here we are again medical expenses period for whatever reason be it STD's, near drowning and or actually drowning if they are successful at revival, injuries from participating in sporting activites WHATEVER are expensive and the buck is passed on to everyone if what they pay outweighs what you pay in

In the same vein the buck gets passed on to you in property damage so should we require snow tires in the winter to reduce the likelyhood of a major accident? When are they going to install seatbelts on a motorcycle?

Is it a law? Why can't they "encourage" me to wear a seatbelt?

FYP

BTW I just got done clearing a abandoned building so I'm a bit still wound up to sleep :)

Damn, talk about a bunch of crying pussies on here today ?

Cops are like referees, they can do no right. If they enforce the law as it is written, they are dicks, to some if they pull you over, they are dicks. PIGS, crummy rotten PIGS !

Does the law tell the cop to use his discretion ? Is he suppose to judge your violation on your intent ? Do referees do this in football ? Again,a cop can do no right, it's a no win situation to most of you if you get pulled over for a violation , because of your intent not to commit the violation.

As a former cop, it's tought to serve and protect and keep everybody happy, Bottom line is you can't. If it was a minor violation and I gave a warning, the violator was pissed I pulled them over. Most were happy they got a warning. To the ones I deemed that recieved a ticket, I always told the violator that I am not the judge, take it up with him.

As a person that has lived on both sides of this, it's not easy being a cop. I have recieved tickets that I deserved after my years as a police officer. FTR, I have not had one for 15 years now.....

My insurance company rewards me for a clean record too !

And again, you can't prevent everything, that's why we have insurance in the first place. But we're talking about a simple click of the seatbelt that all vehicles are equipped with, that potentially could save thousands of dollars of medical expenses. I just don't see why that is asking so much.

Because there are a large number of thick-headed mouth breathers out there that either don't understand why they should do it, or just plain don't give a shit. Why should the responsible people have to help pay for them?

Just in sticking to motorized vehicles and the medical costs associated with accidents, may I recommend we outlaw motorcycles then?