Give me a break. You act like his injury is due to overuse. Sorry, any runningback is going to potentially break his foot or ankle if it gets caught under a linebacker the way LJ's did.

I see no reason at all to believe he is anywhere close to done. Give him a damn line and he is back to 1,500 yard seasons. LJ and Kolby Smith could potentially be a great 1-2 punch. LJ is the tough north-south runner and Kolby Smith is the shifty one who can make runs to the outside.

How much do you think is a result of the Hunt family almost going tits up over trying to corner the silver market?

Tell that to Marty Schottenhiemer

Do you reallyl think Carl and the Hunts are going to win a bidding war with Jerry Jones? I said this in another post on another thread:
... if the Chiefs offer Garrett a contract to be the Head Coach he will inherit all of their offensive struggles next year. Or he can be the OC for Dallas one more year and then take over that squad with a new stadium, a high paying GM, and one of the most recongnized franchises in the NFL. Ummm as much as I love the Chiefs I see no upside for Garrett here. Remember just because someone offers a job does not mean they will take it.

If you don't acknowledge history you are doomed to repeat it. Heavy workload backs break down....big backs like him also break down....that's 2 strikes right away...

This organization gave RB's big contracts back to back, they didn't learn and they will pay for it.

If you want to get a glimpse of the young Lamar, read the book America's Game by Michael MacCambridge.

I once made a post on this board, saying that the Chiefs need a change in mentality when it comes to ownership. Just a different attitude you know?

that fireyness, competitiveness! I don't see that in Lamar. I once said that on here, that Lamar is responsible for the failures of this franchise, that the Chiefs needed a change in ownership and needed a change in attitude, and I got bashed.

If the Herm experiment does not pan out after year three I think this would be a very good idea.

I think it was more his brothers than Lamar that were in on that scheme. I think it has more to do with that once Lamar had slaid the NFL dragon, that he no longer had a challenge that interested him. After that, it seems he left the running of the franchise more to others and concentrated on league issues.

I know exactly where you are coming from, the whole Chiefs attitude comes from/came from the top down. If Lamar had really been passionate about winning Peterson would have been gone years ago. We can blame Peterson all we want Lamar was the one keeping him there so it was good enough for him.

i know this may sound stupid, but does anyone really care anymore?

I mean about this season. I hope it goes into the tank, just tank it. Lose every frikkn game. Get a top 3 pick.

Hey the Chiefs go 4-12, hopefully that'll lose fanbase, and influence ownership to make changes.

I know rooting to lose is bad. But Im looking at the potential bright sides.

I want a new FO, a new coaching staff and possibly a potential superstar in the draft.

Lets make it clear this franchise needs a shakeup.

...Unfortunately!

On a personal note: Herm's coaching stupidity knows no limits.

I agree with you, now I'm sure someone will say we are bad fans for that view. That how dare we want to lose for better picks.....

Beer Bacon can show up and tell us we don't want top 5 picks because they are to expensive, yes he really said that.

Also Lamar was one of the richest owners in the AFL, that made a big difference as well. Him, Bud Adams, and the Jets owner had the dollars at that time.

And honestly, and I think there are very few organizations that would keep an underachieving GM?

It's been almost 20 years that Peterson is here? Unbelievable.

I think they care about selling tickets. peterson is good enough for building 8-8 teams. But now I think he is starting to wear thin even doing that? Peterson is Good enough to make a few moves to peak the fans interest. I've seen that happen over and over from time to time.

That's why I say 4-12, 5-11 might not be bad? hopefully that'll influence Clark and say look the fans arent coming to the games anymore? we're going into the opposite direction, something is wrong we need to make changes.

I think that is what it will take? And if that is not good enough to get Peterson fired, I will never follow this team again.

As a fan, just view me as the kind of guy, that looks upon severe failure as hope? Hope for a better future, and possibly a shift into the minds that ownership can alter and change their ways of thinking a little.

I just hope that Clark is of his word. As a fan that is what I want to see. If he cares about winning then do the right thing and fire Carl and Herm the heck outta town.